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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2006, 05:07:42 pm »

Can you think of political/moral subjects which have more than just two viewpoints, other than just religion? For example:

1. Abortion is Wrong
2. Abortion is ok in some circumstances
3. Abortions should be Legal
The problem with this list is that the vast majority of people who agree with statement #1 also agree with statement #2, so essentially there are only two points of view.

It'll be very interesting to see how South Dakota's case plays out.  At the very extreme it will become a states rights issue.
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2006, 05:28:37 pm »

I'm pro choice. I choose life.
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2006, 08:11:57 pm »

One of my favorite lines from Lewis Blck sums this up nicely.

Right now there is a Republican standing up in congress saying "I have a bad idea", and a Democrat standing behind him saying "I can make it worse."

As long as you have more than one person, you will have more than one view.
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« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2006, 11:21:29 pm »

One of my favorite lines from Lewis Blck sums this up nicely.

Right now there is a Republican standing up in congress saying "I have a bad idea", and a Democrat standing behind him saying "I can make it worse."

As long as you have more than one person, you will have more than one view.

WHich is one of the glories of democracy. Monarchies have bad ideas, but that's it. They're bad and nothing can stop them. At least with democrats and republicans we have two parties who cancel each other out, and therefore we have no bad ideas put into law...
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2006, 10:37:42 am »

At least with democrats and republicans we have two parties who cancel each other out, and therefore we have no bad ideas put into law...

I'm sorry...can you repeat that?
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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2006, 11:56:22 am »

At least with democrats and republicans we have two parties who cancel each other out, and therefore we have no bad ideas put into law...

WOW!

Did you have crack in your cereal this morning SCFinFan?  Below I have listed just a few of the tremendous amounts of bad ideas that our democracy has put into place in just the past few years.


1. The Bush Administration's regressive environmental policies have lowered cleanliness standards for our air and water while allowing utility companies (many of whom are Bush campaign contributors) to profit off of the weakened regulations. In 2002, the head of the EPA's Office of Regulatory Enforcement resigned, complaining that the agency was "fighting a White House that seems determined to weaken the rules we are trying to enforce." (CNN, Aug. 22, 2002)
<a href="http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/2004.asp" target="_blank">http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/2004.asp[/url]


2. Bush is underfunding education. The President cut $200 million from his own No Child Left Behind Act, eliminating crucial educational programs for lower income children and cutting professional training for more than 20,000 teachers. Flawed from its very foundation, No Child Left Behind is based on then-Governor Bush's late 90's "Texas Miracle," program of standardized testing designed to increase performance and reduce dropout rates--now recognized as a scandalous failure.


3. The Bush Administration's Patriot Act threatens our constitutional rights and civil liberties. Passed by a post 9/11 Congress, the Patriot act expands the ability of law enforcement to conduct secret searches, and engage various forms of surveillance, including internet monitoring and wiretapping. It gives the FBI access to American citizens' highly personal medical, financial, mental health, and student records without notification or permission, and allows them to investigate individuals without probable cause of a crime. Finally, it permits non-citizens to be jailed based on mere suspicion and held indefinitely in six month increments without meaningful judicial review.
<a href="http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=12126&c=207" target="_blank">http://www.aclu.org/SafeandFree/SafeandFree.cfm?ID=12126&amp;c=207[/url]


4. Bush's Tax Cuts only benefit the rich. Bush claimed that his tax cut would "reduce tax rates for everyone who pays income tax." He failed to mention that this "relief" program would put half of the tax cut's dividends into the hands of our nation's wealthiest 5%, while 8.1 million citizens in the bottom half of the income bracket receive approximately $300 a year. Reducing tax revenues while doubling the growth rate of federal spending has caused the federal budget deficit to balloon to a projected $4 trillion over the next 10 years.
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2006, 04:47:34 pm »

You mean at least we have checks and balances?  Between the executive, legislative, and judicial branches.  In additions, having a bi-partisan system introduces another check and balance.  But by no means does this ensure no bad ideas get passed into law. 
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