Warren Sapp stiffs waitress on tip

[masterfins]

Thinking back to my business and psychology courses I took in college, I recall that if an employee is a poor/lazy employee they will most likely continue to always be that way.  If a person is a hard worker they will always be that way.  Now there can be short term ups and downs of an employees' performance, but in the long term they will revert to their normal behavior, same as in regular life.  Some businesses are better at selecting and retaining good employees, and poor employees generally leave jobs if they think they have to work too hard.  Tipping has gotten way out of hand, it should be for service that is exemplary, not a given.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I am fine with eliminating tipping, but three things will happen once this is done:

1) Like I said, the customer is paying for their new salary now through increased food costs. This will be done nation wide, so there is no escaping it.

2) Rude customers will no longer get better service than they deserve because everyone makes the same regardless. The servers won't be rude back, but you bet they won't bust their ass for you anymore if you are going to be a dick. They won't get fired for this either.

I will also say that some of the crappier, unmotivated workers will also give bad service because they don't need to be amazing anymore. Not to the point of being fired, just not going to win any Server of the Year awards.

3) They won't make $10 an hour. They will make closer to $16-18 because you have to make the job worthwhile and busting your ass all hours of the night for $10 just ain't happening. It really is one of the most stressful jobs in the world. Not important, but stressful.

So, if America is ready for $15 cheeseburgers and $13 mozzarella sticks, then let's go.

[Spider-Dan]

You are operating under the incorrect assumption that the stressfulness and/or physical difficulty of a job is tied to the pay.  There are minimum-wage agricultural jobs where you stand out in the sun and pick vegetables for 8+ hours a day.

The pay rate of a job relates to three things:

1) How hard it is it to find someone qualified to do it?
2) How many people are willing to do it?
3) How much money does this job generate?

Furthermore, your statement that people will need to make $16-18/hr to be willing to wait tables necessarily implies that, with tips, they are making that now.  I'm not sure if I agree with that.

[EKnight]

I cleared that easily the entire time I waited tables. Most servers work 4-10, 5-11, or something close and pull over $100 a night here weeknights and more Fridays and Saturdays. -EK

[RichThrawn]

I cleared that easily the entire time I waited tables. Most servers work 4-10, 5-11, or something close and pull over $100 a night here weeknights and more Fridays and Saturdays. -EK

It really depends on where you work.  I waited tables when I was in college.  Sometimes I'd make $100 per night, sometimes I'd make $50 per night. 

The key is the fact that a big chunk of it is untaxed because waiters don't declare all their tips.  That would be a major factor if restaurants were to begin paying their servers an hourly wage.

[Spider-Dan]

I cleared that easily the entire time I waited tables. Most servers work 4-10, 5-11, or something close and pull over $100 a night here weeknights and more Fridays and Saturdays.

Even if this is the general rule, at the end of the day, money does not come from nowhere.  If servers are making an average of $20/hr after tips, then people are already paying $13 for mozzarella sticks and $15 for a cheeseburger.

As I've said previously, I'd rather pay higher prices, have servers receive higher wages, and have that money all be above board.

[CF DolFan]

You are operating under the incorrect assumption that the stressfulness and/or physical difficulty of a job is tied to the pay.  There are minimum-wage agricultural jobs where you stand out in the sun and pick vegetables for 8+ hours a day.

The pay rate of a job relates to three things:

1) How hard it is it to find someone qualified to do it?
2) How many people are willing to do it?
3) How much money does this job generate?

Furthermore, your statement that people will need to make $16-18/hr to be willing to wait tables necessarily implies that, with tips, they are making that now.  I'm not sure if I agree with that.

Any fruit/vegetable picking job I have ever seen gets paid by the amount you pick. As a teen we used to pick cucumbers or oranges to pay speeding tickets etc. In hindsight that's about as fair a job a as I have ever seen. Lol