Are you happy with the way the team is heading?

[Philly Fin Fan]

Thread is getting derailed. Enough chatter about the Patriots, more chatter about Are you happy with the way the team is heading?

[bsfins]

excuse me for being whishy washy on the issue......

I am talent wise, I think were going in the right direction...Even with the loss of Zach Thomas,and the impending loss of Jason Taylor...From everything I've read,the play calling,systems we're gonna run,it will be a very boring...Ala Dave Wannstedt style football....Which I'm not real happy about myself....

[MaineDolFan]

Ask me again once camp opens.  As of right now we're basing our offensive line on a rookie and a bunch of un-proven players, one QB that couldn't crack the starting line up in Oakland, Arizona and Detroit, another that couldn't beat out Cleo Lemon for a starting position and a rookie that has never faced a professional rush.  We have one RB coming off a nuked knee, another that nukes his lungs in between yoga lessons.  One WR that runs 40 yards in a tenth of a second but is ineffective on routes and a bunch of WR's that are so unknown that they couldn't get comped on a day old free cup of coffee at 7-11.  Our best defensive player won't report to camp and the other one is busy beating up offensive lineman from other teams in Vegas.  

So I hope everyone will excuse me for waiting to see what this hodge-podge looks like on the field.

[simeon]

So back to topic, yes I am happy with the direction, Parcells is a proven winner.



Modified by Philly Fin Fan to keep it on topic

[StL FinFan]

This team can't get much worse, but I won't break out the confetti until after I see what we have on the field.

[landlocked]

I like the old school,"get your butts in the weight room"mentality that the Parcells regime has implemented so far.At least the Dolphins will be physical this year.As far as talent I say give them a couple years,remember when Parcells took the Giants to the super bowl with a no name qb(Hostetler) and not really any big time names(except L.T.),just guys that worked their butts off and played hard nosed,physical football.

[JVides]

Emotionally, no I am not.  I don't like our best player being treated like crap for doing something for which he had received a blessing (from the prior administration).  I didn't like it when JJ treated Marino like a rookie (taking the ability to audible away) and I don't like Parcells' treatment of Jason Taylor.  As I've said before...the last ego we brought in here landed us a nice 62-7.

From a roster standpoint, I am better.  I see large, athletic players being brought in.  I see a roster being turned over into a (mostly) younger, leaner, meaner team (let's see if this is the case once the pads go on).  I see the team building from the trenches out (O & D-Line) and I sing praises to God (Hallelujah!) for this, as I am a huge proponent of starting with the uglies up front.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Ask me again once camp opens.  As of right now we're basing our offensive line on a rookie and a bunch of un-proven players, one QB that couldn't crack the starting line up in Oakland, Arizona and Detroit, another that couldn't beat out Cleo Lemon for a starting position and a rookie that has never faced a professional rush.  We have one RB coming off a nuked knee, another that nukes his lungs in between yoga lessons.  One WR that runs 40 yards in a tenth of a second but is ineffective on routes and a bunch of WR's that are so unknown that they couldn't get comped on a day old free cup of coffee at 7-11.  Our best defensive player won't report to camp and the other one is busy beating up offensive lineman from other teams in Vegas.  

So I hope everyone will excuse me for waiting to see what this hodge-podge looks like on the field.

I like your descriptions.

I can see us heading in the right direction, but I'm tired of the losing.  If Parcells doesn't deliver a Super Bowl, he's gonna get the same treatment JJ got, if not worse.

[Doc-phin]

I am about 90% happy with the direction.  The 10% left over includes the fact that Parcells gives me the vibe that he may quit before finishing what he has started and that his style is just a little too meat and potatoes for todays championship style football.

But I will gladly take the 90% since it includes talent, winning, playoffs and a no nonsense approach. 

[Defense54]

I like your descriptions.

I can see us heading in the right direction, but I'm tired of the losing.  If Parcells doesn't deliver a Super Bowl, he's gonna get the same treatment JJ got, if not worse.

Lets not forget...........Parcells is not the Coach. Soprano is.   


I really don't know why people shit on JJ. He brought us a pair of Icons and then some. He didn't go for the Money$$ or anywhere else. He lost the passion and quit. I have no problem with that. Better then going on half assed.  Except for the Wannstedt legacy JJ was a Great coach. It was completely Wayne's fault NOT JJ's for keeping Dave as long as he did.

[AprFools_Phins]

NO

[YoFuggedaboutit]

Lets not forget...........Parcells is not the Coach. Soprano is.   


I really don't know why people shit on JJ. He brought us a pair of Icons and then some. He didn't go for the Money$$ or anywhere else. He lost the passion and quit. I have no problem with that. Better then going on half assed.  Except for the Wannstedt legacy JJ was a Great coach. It was completely Wayne's fault NOT JJ's for keeping Dave as long as he did.

Fact is, while JJ hit on some draft picks, he missed badly on others.  The defense improved and the offense tanked badly.  He came in here with a big ego, stomped all over Shula's legacy, promised a Super Bowl, and didn't deliver.  Nuff said.

[ethurst2]

Fact is, while JJ hit on some draft picks, he missed badly on others.  The defense improved and the offense tanked badly.  He came in here with a big ego, stomped all over Shula's legacy, promised a Super Bowl, and didn't deliver.  Nuff said.

The last true rebuilding year was 1996 when JJ became head coach and he had the right ideas. Bring a fast defense and start infusing young talent. I believe that Johnson got burned out because of several reasons:

A.  Free agency and having to baby some players (Cecil Collins,Tony Martin)
B.  Wanting to bench Dan Marino but couldn't because of Uncle Wayne and the fans.

Johnson really built the defense and I have to give him props for that. Someone mentioned that Dan Marino had the audible taken away from him and from what I've heard, he didn't. Johnson gave him a "check with me system" before you change the play. Marino, of course didn't like that.

This new regime can't mess anything up. They were one and 1-15 last year

Check with me around the 8th game and I'll give you my report.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

NO

are you going to explain why?

[AprFools_Phins]

are you going to explain why?

Well as much as I can like some of what was done- I think that a lot of what's happened is bs. Draft day- ok. Not fantastic as of yet- but not bad. But nothing has blown me away in the aquisition of people that can tip the scale in favor of me being happy. I agree with JVides. I am not ok with our best player being treated like shit. This whole ordeal to me is bigger than just Jason. It sets a standard of how this organization is going to be run- and it is completely wrong for things to have gone down the way they have.

If they didn't want Jason- fine trade him. Especially if you are going to make statements insinuating he doesn't want to be on the team. Actually try to trade him. Don't overprice him so you know no one will take him- just for the appearance of acting like you are trying- no one is buying it. Don't ignore the fact that he is still a part of your team- even if he is doing something you don't approve of (even if he agreed to do it before you were in charge). Treat him with the respect he deserves after giving the organization you are now a part of everything for the last what 12 years. And after all this- don't paint him as the bad guy- while it's you being the shit head.