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Boldin was traded to the 49ers according Adam shefter Twitter feed
As @RavensInsider insider reported, WR Anquan Boldin traded to 49ers for a sixth-round pick. WRs piling up in NFC West. (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/311208271400812544)

Anquan Boldin needs to pass physical before trade with 49ers becomes complete; he's in Africa on mission. Physical, trade completion await. (https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/311208668442021888)

Steal for SF. Great move for them

I think this is a good move.

Wow...

The Niners response to the Seahawks getting Percy Harvin. 

...6th round pick.

SF coughed up a 5th for The Ginn Family.  This deal has to be John taking care of his little brother or something.

Minny offered a 7th rounder for Boldin and was shot down.

This is a classic case of the 2 brothers taking care of each other

Very happy to see Boldin come on board...even happier with the price tag.



These are classic cases of jumping to ridiculous conclusions without utilizing any part of the brain other than the frontal conspiracy lobe...

Taking a 6th instead of a 7th makes sense.

But taking a 6th for the #1 WR on your team?  I don't know if there is any historical precedence for that.

OAK traded Randy Moss for a 4th... after rapidly declining production and general Randyness on a non-contending team.
PIT traded Santonio Holmes for a 5th... after repeated trouble with the law and during a four-game suspension for substance abuse violations.

If you have some prior examples of a contending team trading away their #1 receiver for peanuts, I'm happy to hear them.

Whatever happened to taking care of the hands, that take care of you? Good move for San Francisco. Time will tell for Baltimore.

Swap out the words "the #1 WR on your team" with "a talented but older WR who wants more money than the team is willing to pay him" and you won't have to look hard for precedents...

Yea, I had ehard there was a good chance Baltimore was cutting Bolden anyway. They wanted him to take a pay cut he was not willing to do.

...except that Boldin was still under contract for another year.  So just like GB rode out Jennings' contract, and PIT rode out Wallace's contract, and NE rode out Welker's contract, BAL could have ridden out Boldin's.  I find it difficult to believe that the 6th round prospect will be likely to contribute more in 2013 than Boldin would have.

But if there are other motivations at play, it doesn't seem as crazy.

Financial motivations were the only ones in play... Show me otherwise or plug your Niner-hating hole.

Show you otherwise?  What, exactly, would you accept as proof?

The Ravens took a $1.5M cap hit in dead money just to trade him.  If you're telling me that $6M (his base 2013 salary, which also happens to be less than MIA is paying Brian Hartline in 2013) was too much money to bring back the leading receiver on the team for the last three years (and the receiver that made the most plays out of their WR corp during their just-concluded title run)... sorry, I don't agree.  Particularly since they just backed the dump truck up to Flacco's house based almost exclusively on his performance during that same title run.

Exactly.  Flacco should have given Boldin a kick-back for making him look so good.

One more thing:

You know, for all the talk about how BAL was making a perfectly justifiable decision not to pay $6M for an "older WR," I seem to have a hard time finding 49er fans who are complaining about having to pay $6M (and give up a sixth-round pick!) for that very same receiver.

Of course, maybe that's because SF is a team in contention for the title.  Because this kind of move would make sense for a non-contender, but otherwise, it seems rather questionable.

We got a good deal...suck it up and move along.

Hey, I'm not saying that Goodell should step in and veto it like David Stern did with the Chris-Paul-to-Lakers trade.  I'm just saying, sure is nice to have family members in high places around the league!

You got a very good deal.  After his performance in the Super Bowl, getting this guy for a sixth rounder was a big steal.

And I also have to wonder if there was collusion between the Harbaugh brothers.

Perhaps in your next role, you can come back as a prosecuting attorney...

We already have one on this site. 

Paging SCFinFan!!

Not so sure why you are getting offended Stroke but there is more more brotherly love in that deal than all of Philadelphia! They could have surely gotten a better deal from many other teams.

The good news for Baltimore is that he is out of the division and conference.     

Show me one report...even a rumor, where Baltimore turned down a better deal than a 6th rounder in order to deal him to SF, and I'll buy it. If not, I'm not... The best offer they got, for a player they were going to release, was the 6th rounder offered by the Niners. If the Niners were coached by Joe Schmo from Fresno, that deal still happens.

Nice

At your service.

Trust me though, I am sitting back here in the peanut gallery smiling silently watching Stroke's arguments that this wasn't "scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours" dwindle down to "oh shut up."

If any evidence had been presented other than "they are brothers, therefore there must be something funny going on," I would properly address that argument. Likewise, if any evidence had been presented which showed that Baltimore had turned down a better offer than the one they made with SF, I'd be forced to consider it.

Since no evidence has been forthcoming on either count, I fell back to the position I usually take when dealing with conspiracy nutjobs...which is "show me proof, or shut the fuck up already." Not coincidentally, this is also the position I take when religious nutjobs talk about accepting their version of God "on faith."

Not coincidentally then, you are wrong on both. Everyone becomes an attorney carefully weighing evidence when a conclusion is impolitic. More evidence has been presented than what you are claiming - you know it. It is not merely, 'they're brothers' - it's "they're brothers, and there is no precedent for a move like this, and the contract that he had could've allowed them to ride him out and then allow him to go as an FA, etc etc."

I wish *everyone* (myself included, at times) on this board would take a deep breath and say to themselves "you know, it's ok to acknowledge that someone else has a point, even when I disagree w/ it."

That said, I'm done. Arguing these things is like arguing w/ a drunk.

Sunstroke, you gotta admit, that's probably the first thing most anyone would have thought of. It's almost like he said to his brother "Aww, you almost won the Superbowl, here, take my best receiver for peanuts." I'm not concluding that is the case, but, it's certainly the first thing that popped into my head, and I"m all out of tinfoil.

I wonder if the 49ers had won the Super Bowl, if this would have been "Crabtree to the Ravens for a 6th round pick"

I rejected this logic when used to defend the Marshall trade, and I reject it again now.  "Don't complain about this seemingly dumb move, because we were actually preparing to make an even dumber move in its place!" is not a defense.

If the best offer you received for your best receiver last year (who is still under contract at a reasonable market value) is a 6th round pick, here's another option: let that receiver play out his contract.  They had no problem letting Flacco play out his contract, did they?

Your definition of "reasonable market value" and the Ravens' version are obviously not the same thing. Thankfully, the Ravens' version is relevant, while yours is just typical Spidey argument-fodder.  I know you feel that your infallible logic would allow you to make better personnel decisions than Ozzie Newsome...I just wish you'd go out and get the gig before asking me to believe it too.

Again, it's kind of hard to believe your claims about how bad Boldin's contract is when your team happily gave up a draft pick for the privilege of taking on said contract.

I've already asked you to cite another example of a contending team dumping their top receiver for peanuts (particularly when he had a contract in line with those currently being dished out to #2s).  I'm still waiting.

I asked for concrete details (proof of a better offer to support your insinuation of collusion), and you're asking me for a precedent based on your belief that Boldin was their best WR last year (which isn't even relevant to his value "this year."). One of us (me) is waiting for facts, and one of us (you) is waiting for the other to dig up some information so you can continue arguing in circles.

Enjoy the wait...

Why are you waiting for proof of a better offer?  If MIA offers ARI a 4th-rounder for Fitz, are they somehow required to say, "Oh well, we don't have any better offers on the table, guess we have to take that one!"?

I already said that if your best offer for your current (not future, current) leading receiver is a 6th round pick, you pass on that offer.

Unless it's from your baby brother.  Then maybe you take it.

Yes, I was waiting for proof of a better offer. Thanks for making me repeat what was a very clear question. Your entire argument is based on some twilight-zonish assumption that Baltimore was willing to pay Anquan the salary he was asking for, should they not receive a trade offer that matches up with some random value point that you believe the Ravens' front office should have.

Try wrapping your head around this... Baltimore is going to release a WR who they considered too expensive and who wasn't willing to consider a pay cut. They ask around..."Hey, league, will anyone offer us some tasty draft picks for a WR who is still playing very well?"  Alas, despite Boldin's recent playoff performance and an eloquent letter of recommendation by some dude on a Dolphins chat board, the personnel guys for the other 31 teams think "Hmmm, he's 32 years old, he'll cost 6 million, he's openly contemplated retirement in the past few weeks...and, oh yeah, his club is rumored to be considering releasing him anyway!"

Baltimore loads up the call center in anticipation of the avalanche of offers they're certain are forthcoming. Unfortunately, the phone rings only twice. The first offer comes from the Vikings, a team that is in the process of trading away their best WR and have virtually nothing in the WR cupboard once he's gone. What do you mean they won't budge off their "nothing more than a 7th round pick" offer? Don't they know that he's ten times better than any WR they have on their roster? Don't they realize what he's worth...to Spider-Dan?  After getting zero interest from the rest of the league, they finally get a second nibble on the hook. The 49ers are willing to offer a 6th round pick.

That night, Ozzie contemplates his three options.  Release Boldin outright due to financial considerations... Trade him to Minnesota for a 7th round pick... Trade him to San Francisco for a 6th round pick...  The math seems simple to him, but Ozzie tosses and turns all night, with cold sweats when considering the possible Harbaugh "conspiracy theories" that might pop up on random small football chat boards.  In the end, he goes by the numbers and deals him for the best offer he received...a 6th rounder from the 49ers.


I know you did...take it up with Ozzie. I'm sure if you argue with him about it with the tenacity that you argue with on this board, he'll eventually break down and offer you his job.


The offer was from the 49ers GM, Trent Baalke, to the Ravens GM, Ozzie Newsome. Unless you're ready to present evidence gleaned from ancestry.com or some other genealogical research, I'm fairly certain that Trent and Ozzie aren't brothers.

I think you mean 29 teams, since there's at least two teams that said, "Anquan Boldin at $6M for one year?  Hell yes!  We'll even give you a draft pick for him!"

And, strangely enough, I don't see anyone, anywhere, saying, "49ers gave up a 6th to pay Boldin $6M for a year... what a horrible move on their part."  Weird how everyone seems to be praising the 49ers for picking up the contract of a guy who is supposedly not worth what he's being paid (and giving up a draft pick to do so).  How can you rationalize the Ravens dumping the salary of an "overpaid player" at the same time you are cheering the 49ers for picking up the contract of THAT SAME PLAYER?  One of those two positions has to be wrong.

A nighttime contemplation is a great setting for this story, because when Ozzie woke up, he could have realized, "Gee, maybe I can just decide to keep my team's leading receiver for less than what it would cost me to sign a Brian Hartline-level replacement in free agency!"  You continue to frame this decision as if the Ravens were forced to choose between dumb move (trade Boldin for a 6th) and dumber move (cut him), when that is not the case.

I suppose if the Ravens hadn't received any offers for Boldin, you would be ardently praising BAL's decision to cut him?  I mean, what else could they have done?

Thank you for your opinion...it's been duly noted, reviewed, and filed accordingly.  If you come up with some actual evidence of that Harbaugh brother collusion conspiracy bullshit you were spouting that spawned this conversation, just let me know.

Perhaps you misunderstand my position.

I said that this was John throwing Jim a bone because the alternative is that Baltimore is freaking stupid to cut their leading WR on account of the $6M he is due next year.  My evidence for the stupidity of such a decision is the universal praise SF has received for bringing on Boldin at that same price tag (and giving up a draft pick to do so).  So maybe you're right: why attribute this trade to collusion when it is sufficiently explained by sheer incompetence?

In any case, I look forward to you maintaining this same standard of evidentiary rigorousness when it comes to defending trades that don't benefit your favorite team in the future.

I almost always understand your position...I just often find it ridiculous.

I don't think it's ridiculous to think that John might've said something to Jim along the lines of, "Normally I would ask for a fourth rounder for Boldin, but for you my little brother, a sixth rounder." And it was said before the Ravens entertained any other offers.  Granted, there is no evidence of this, so one can only wonder if this happened.  You are right about one thing.  The Niners came out with a smashing deal.

I'm absolutely positive that the Boldin trade was contemplated by John and Jim way back in elementary school.  "Whichever one of us wins the Super Bowl as a head coach first will deal a good player on the cheap to the other, so both of us can have Super Bowl rings."


No one else in the entire league would offer more than a 7th rounder... The only 4th rounder is in your mind, Professor Shandlark, not in either of the Harbaugh's


Exactly...

I'm surprised the GMs even have a job with their respective organizations since the coaches colluded this trade without their consent.  >:D

I do admit, it is the first thing that pops into your head but follwing your first instinct is not always right contrary to the old saying.

This article makes a big stink on why the Dolphins never went after Boldin, despite him being a local product.  One part that stands out to me is this:

Back when Dave Wannstedt had the final say in 2003, Miami had a shot at Boldin in the second round but took a mediocre linebacker named Eddie Moore who never got up to speed.

Labelling Eddie Moore as mediocre is way too kind.  The guy was garbage.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/sports/football/dave-george-too-bad-the-miami-dolphins-never-have-/nWrCG/