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« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2008, 05:21:22 pm »

I just saw a clip from the interview on MSNBC. Scary.

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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2008, 05:23:33 pm »

So Palin is a moron. What did Biden say about FDR, TV and the Depression? Funny that you never heard anything about that on the national media. Now had Palin said something like that, It would have been front page. Biden also said something along the line like "Hillary is just as, or more qualified than I am for VP" Yeah, he's a Mensa member. I may be mistaken, but haven't I seen Biden cry on the floor of Congress.?
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« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2008, 05:28:29 pm »


For the first couple of days after Palin was announced as McCain's VP, I kept waiting for someone to pop out and say "April Fools!!"

Surely the Republican's understood that she would get exposed long before the election, right? I mean, c'mon...this isn't the 1930's media on the campaign trail, it's the 21st century version, and their cold little techno glass eyes miss nothing.

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« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2008, 05:29:00 pm »

So Palin is a moron. What did Biden say about FDR, TV and the Depression? Funny that you never heard anything about that on the national media. Now had Palin said something like that, It would have been front page. Biden also said something along the line like "Hillary is just as, or more qualified than I am for VP" Yeah, he's a Mensa member. I may be mistaken, but haven't I seen Biden cry on the floor of Congress.?

Aww come on...Enjoy all the Palin bashing. I think its hilarious. Palin will clean Biden's clock on Thursday, and after that, the attacks will get worse. Its called desperation. If she's as stupid as all the Palin haters say, then why don't they just leave her alone, and let her hang herself?
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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2008, 05:30:26 pm »

Personally, I think both of them are idiots. 
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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2008, 05:34:20 pm »

why don't they just leave her alone, and let her hang herself?

I think that's what we're all expecting to happen.  Wink

Seriously, John McCain is a good man and a hero, but he is also really f*cking old. He had an obligation to pick a VP who was qualified. Instead, he went with Palin. I felt insulted when her name was announced.

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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2008, 05:38:23 pm »

Seriously, John McCain is a good man and a hero, but he is also really f*cking old. He had an obligation to pick a VP who was qualified. Instead, he went with Palin. I felt insulted when her name was announced.

For once we agree on something.  Either Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee would've been a much better choice. 
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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2008, 05:39:40 pm »

If Palin steps down and it in any way looks like she is fired, McCain is done.

If there were a REALLY good reason for her to step down, I think it might work out. Like, say, the death of a close family member. Something no one in the media would dare criticize her for, at least openly. It has to be ironclad that McCain's judgment was not faulty in picking her. I.e. if she goes down, so does he. The "replacement" has to happen without her "going down".
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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2008, 05:42:35 pm »

If Palin steps down and it in any way looks like she is fired, McCain is done.

If there were a REALLY good reason for her to step down, I think it might work out. Like, say, the death of a close family member. Something no one in the media would dare criticize her for, at least openly. It has to be ironclad that McCain's judgment was not faulty in picking her. I.e. if she goes down, so does he. The "replacement" has to happen without her "going down".

Maybe her daughter will get knocked up and she'll have a baby with downs syndrome. oh, my bad...

So given the above, what exactly is left that could happen? She's not going to back out. McCain will either sink or swim with Palin. She might still surprise me, but I doubt it.
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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2008, 05:42:44 pm »

For once we agree on something.  Either Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee would've been a much better choice. 
I would have thought Romney too, and hoped hard that it would have been him. The problem with that is Romney and McCain REALLY don't like each other. That, and Romney's Mormonism would have been enough to scare off all of the fine, enlightened voters in this country.
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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2008, 05:47:37 pm »

Wow many on this board don't like seeing women achieve great things. How many of the liberals call her dumb while Obama is touring 57 states is funny. They are politicians and they tend to make a gaff's every now and then. I see no reason for her to step down from running as VP. None of these people are dumb they all serve in public office for a reason, though she may be out of her league debating Biden. What I find hilarious is republicans think Biden will step down and hand off to Clinton, and Democrats believe Palin will step down and hand off to Romney.
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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2008, 05:48:58 pm »

dumb and unqualified are not the same thing. She's unqualified, but I assume she is not actually an idiot.
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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2008, 05:50:51 pm »

McCain/Romney would be better for the current situation, but most likely, Obama wouldn't have gotten a convention bump like he did from Palin.

In short, McCain needed a short-term game changer in order to stay in the race.  Obama was gaining pretty big at the time.  Unfortunately, the pick probably will hurt him in the long run.

Either way, McCain's path to the presidency was too difficult.
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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2008, 05:53:54 pm »

McCain/Romney would be better for the current situation, but most likely, Obama wouldn't have gotten a convention bump like he did from Palin.

In short, McCain needed a short-term game changer in order to stay in the race.  Obama was gaining pretty big at the time.  Unfortunately, the pick probably will hurt him in the long run.

Either way, McCain's path to the presidency was too difficult.

Its been said before. Romney and McCain don't like each other. The bounce came because McCain chose a real conservative, which energized the base of the GOP. If he had chosen Liberman like everyone on the left wanted, it would have been an Obama slam dunk, and I suspect that everyone who was pushing for Liberman knows that too.
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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2008, 06:00:28 pm »

Its been said before. Romney and McCain don't like each other. The bounce came because McCain chose a real conservative, which energized the base of the GOP. If he had chosen Liberman like everyone on the left wanted, it would have been an Obama slam dunk, and I suspect that everyone who was pushing for Liberman knows that too.
great point Frimp Palin is a great lady, and I like her but not McCain. I think its great to have a women run for a high office though I can not cast my vote for McCain because of his liberal ways. However I do remember when I voted for Mondale and Furraro not sure if that is how her name is spelt.
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