Can BRADY QUINN come back and win?

[Tepop84]

  18/36 for a 185 yds is hardly praiseworthy.  Cleveland won is spite of Quinn's bad night.  That said, I'm glad Cleveland won.  A Buffalo loss is a big help to Miami.

But 185 yards is more than John Beck has ever thrown for in a game.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

  18/36 for a 185 yds is hardly praiseworthy.  Cleveland won is spite of Quinn's bad night.  That said, I'm glad Cleveland won.  A Buffalo loss is a big help to Miami.

So when Dan Carpenter makes a pressure FG, you say he has "ice water in his veins" but when Brady Quinn steps up and leads his team on a game winning drive, you say his team won in spite of his bad night? 

[Frimp]

But 185 yards is more than John Beck has ever thrown for in a game.

Point?

[DolFan619]

So when Dan Carpenter makes a pressure FG, you say he has "ice water in his veins" but when Brady Quinn steps up and leads his team on a game winning drive, you say his team won in spite of his bad night? 

  I'm sorry if the truth hurts, but Brady's night was less than steller.  Look, I wish that Brady would've had a career game against the Bills.  Truth is, 18 of 36 for 185 yards isn't exactly what I would call exceptional play from the quarterback.  Brady could've helped make that FG much easier for Dawson out on that final drive by getting him closer, by making better throws.  Good quarterbacks step up and make plays when a team needs them the most, that's what Pennington did for Miami on Sunday in that final drive, and that's something I didn't see in Brady tonight.

[YoFuggedaboutit]

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I wandered over to a couple of Buffalo Bills fan sites, and the natives there are restless.  They want Dick Jauron's head on a platter and who can blame them?  This team started out 4-0 and 5-1, but has now lost four in a row and will need serious help getting to the playoffs. 

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[run_to_win]

Quinn was 14/36 for 185 (not 18/36).  Thats 39% and a 56 rating. 

In Beck's 2nd game he was 61% with a 77 rating.  Miami was playing at the 8-3 Steelers.  In that game Chatman led the team in rushing with 17 yards.  He had one run for 10 yards and  gained 7 on his other 10 carries.   Beck was throwing to Booker, Ginn, David Martin and Justin Peelle, which is a far cry from Edwards and Winslow.

In his next game vs the Jets, Beck threw for 177 yards, so Quinn only passed for 8 more yards than Beck ever did.

Tepop, hate away, but please try to hate intelligently and accurately.   

[Thundergod]

Jesus, he's 2 games into his season. I don't care if he sits for 1 or 3 years, he's basically a rook out there in real game situations.  Dude should be 2-0 as a starter if Cleveland's D didn't choke up, yeah yeah, coulda, woulda, shoulda. Hate away Miami fans, but you'd be defending his ass if he donned aqua with the same stats and players. The guy's learning. You can say he blows when he's costing his team games, or losing badly.  Pfff, like the Ted Ginn thing, this'll never end...

[CF DolFan]

In his next game vs the Jets, Beck threw for 177 yards, so Quinn only passed for 8 more yards than Beck ever did.

The funny part is that was Beck's worst game. 

[Rick]

  I'm sorry if the truth hurts, but Brady's night was less than steller.  Look, I wish that Brady would've had a career game against the Bills.  Truth is, 18 of 36 for 185 yards isn't exactly what I would call exceptional play from the quarterback.  Brady could've helped make that FG much easier for Dawson out on that final drive by getting him closer, by making better throws.  Good quarterbacks step up and make plays when a team needs them the most, that's what Pennington did for Miami on Sunday in that final drive, and that's something I didn't see in Brady tonight.

No TURNOVERS, 29 points, and a game winning drive in his FIRST ROAD start in the NFL (on Monday Night Football no less) ....Yeah that's terrible for his 2nd start.

How many dropped passes did Braylon Edwards have?  How many sacks did Quinn avoid by throwing the ball away (which counts as an incompletion ).

[YoFuggedaboutit]

No TURNOVERS, 29 points, and a game winning drive in his FIRST ROAD start in the NFL (on Monday Night Football no less) ....Yeah that's terrible for his 2nd start.

How many dropped passes did Braylon Edwards have?  How many sacks did Quinn avoid by throwing the ball away (which counts as an incompletion ).

Excellent post Rick!!!!

That's the intangibles that stat lines don't tell you. 

[Sunstroke]

Wasn't a great game for Brady on the stat sheet, but it was a win, and he showed me he can do the little things to help his team win.

[MaineDolFan]

OK, Quinn just engineered his first fourth quarter game winning drive.  To think we could've had this guy. 

CAM CAMERON, YOU SUCK!!!!  YOU WERE A FUCKING DISGRAGE TO THIS ORGANIZATION!!!!  I'M GLAD PARCELLS FIRED YOUR ASS!!!!!!

You seriously need help.  Let it go.

[ochizon]

At this point I would rather have Pennington and Ginn, with Henne as a back up, than Quinn.

Are people really still crying about this?  Why dont you guys cry about picking Long instead of Matt ryan, who is 10 times the quarterback than quinn is?

[Frimp]

At this point I would rather have Pennington and Ginn, with Henne as a back up, than Quinn.

Are people really still crying about this?  Why dont you guys cry about picking Long instead of Matt ryan, who is 10 times the quarterback than quinn is?

QFT

[DolFan619]

No TURNOVERS, 29 points, and a game winning drive in his FIRST ROAD start in the NFL (on Monday Night Football no less) ....Yeah that's terrible for his 2nd start.

How many dropped passes did Braylon Edwards have?  How many sacks did Quinn avoid by throwing the ball away (which counts as an incompletion ).

  Please point out where I said Quinn had a "terrible" game?  I said that he had a less than stellar game, and I felt that he missed on a few throws he should've made.  I'm sorry if that doesn't sit well with you, but so much for offering what I thought was a fair analysis of Brady's night.  Also, if Lindell had made that FG, it would be an entirely different conversation today.