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YoFuggedaboutit
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« on: December 03, 2008, 08:42:04 am »

WTF is this world coming to???

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/front-page/story/796910.html
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2008, 08:47:20 am »

Sad story.  In regards to "WTF is this world coming to", this isn't anything new.  It's not new behavior.  I know a lot of people love to think that this wouldn't have happened in the 50's, 60's, 70's, etc and blame the "youth of America" for not being what it used to be.  Just ain't true.

Growing up in Oakland I remember seeing people getting jacked at a very early age.  I specifically remember a kid in 4th grade being caught with a gun in his back pack.  I was in 4th grade around 1977, if my math is right.



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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2008, 08:52:30 am »

Sad story.  In reagrds to "WTF is this world coming to", this isn't anything new.  It's not new behavior.  I know a lot of people love to think that this wouldn't have happened in the 50's, 60's, 70's, etc and blame the "youth of America" for not being what it used to be.  Just ain't true.

Growing up in Oakland I remember seeing people getting jacked at a very early age.  I specifically remember a kid in 4th grade being caught with a gun in his back pack.  I was in 4th grade around 1977, if my math is right.

Honestly, Maine, I'd never heard of that when I was a kid.  Sure, we had the typical school bullies extorting money, but all they had to back them up was their fists. 

This is a really sad story.  If they charge that kid as an adult, he's ruined his life. 
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2008, 09:04:00 am »

media is very very different now then it was in the 70's and 80's. we didn't have instant access to the internet and 24/7 news coverage.
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2008, 09:04:52 am »

I couldn't think of a good reason to charge this kid as an adult.  I do see some chances that his parents are going to come under some pretty serious fire, though.  A 1st grader can't be more than, what?  Six years old?  He simply doesn't KNOW better.
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2008, 09:05:56 am »

media is very very different now then it was in the 70's and 80's. we didn't have instant access to the internet and 24/7 news coverage.

That is really exactly it.  The same things have been happening for hundreds of years, you just didn't know about it.  Shoot, I don't know if that kid getting busted with a gun when I was a kid even made the local news. 

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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2008, 09:34:20 am »

I don't think things like this made the news back then. Which was better in my opinion. We over sensationalize everything.
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« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2008, 03:10:31 pm »

We didn't have nationalized local news back then.

In the '50s, if a kid went missing in Denver, you didn't hear about it on the news EVERY SINGLE DAY FOR WEEKS in freaking Seattle.
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2008, 12:32:23 pm »

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm in school up here in Orlando for and trying to prevent . Reaching these kids  younger and younger is getting harder and harder.  Obviously this kid has been exposed to this before and hopefully they can save him. I doubt he even knows exactly what he did and the conquences of his actions. 
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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2008, 06:42:58 am »

media is very very different now then it was in the 70's and 80's. we didn't have instant access to the internet and 24/7 news coverage.

Nice take.

Was there anything else to this?  It says it could be the parents or video games (I say the parents again) but I don't see a real reason for the robbery.  If this kid grows up watching Dexter there could be complications.
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« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2008, 09:32:11 pm »

I'm still up here in Training............. Undecided

We had a gang expert from the CIA who was a guest speaker today. He said that while they can't say that video games are directley responsible for the increase in violence, they definitely do exploit the lifestyle and the violence.  He showed us a game where if you reach the highest level you get to piss in a police officers mouth. I don't care how many traffic tickets you have gotten , if you do not find that disturbing and you let anyone under the age 16 play that game you are an asshole.  This is one of the most popular games out today. 

If you you dig that kind of stuff , you can't say kids exposed to these games and allowed to play them are not gonna carry some of that mind frame with them in daily life.  I used to believe Superman was real when I was 6-7.  Can you imagine a video game on a big screen that you get to interact with?!!   Indifferent
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2008, 09:37:12 pm »

I'm still up here in Training............. Undecided

We had a gang expert from the CIA who was a guest speaker today. He said that while they can't say that video games are directley responsible for the increase in violence, they definitely do exploit the lifestyle and the violence.  He showed us a game where if you reach the highest level you get to piss in a police officers mouth. I don't care how many traffic tickets you have gotten , if you do not find that disturbing and you let anyone under the age 16 play that game you are an asshole.  This is one of the most popular games out today. 

If you you dig that kind of stuff , you can't say kids exposed to these games and allowed to play them are not gonna carry some of that mind frame with them in daily life.  I used to believe Superman was real when I was 6-7.  Can you imagine a video game on a big screen that you get to interact with?!!   Indifferent

Funny you mention this.  I was in Best Buy yesterday, doing some Christmas shopping, and I saw this lady who looked to be in her mid to late 30's buying a copy of the latest Grand Theft Auto game.  My curiosity got the better of me and I asked who it was for.  She said it was for her 11 year old son.

I immediately suggested she put it back on the shelf.  I then explained to her the type of stuff that was in that game, as well as the E, T, and M ratings for video games and what they mean (GTA is M rated of course)  She took my advice and put it back on the shelf.   At least I saved one kid from being exposed to that kind of garbage.
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2008, 09:49:20 pm »

Funny you mention this.  I was in Best Buy yesterday, doing some Christmas shopping, and I saw this lady who looked to be in her mid to late 30's buying a copy of the latest Grand Theft Auto game.  My curiosity got the better of me and I asked who it was for.  She said it was for her 11 year old son.

I immediately suggested she put it back on the shelf.  I then explained to her the type of stuff that was in that game, as well as the E, T, and M ratings for video games and what they mean (GTA is M rated of course)  She took my advice and put it back on the shelf.   At least I saved one kid from being exposed to that kind of garbage.


Tommy thats awesome.  Thats the game that was mentioned. I bet half the parents out there don't supervise or even know what there kids are seeing on these games, MTV, and the internet. Its really a big problem and the training I'm doing with hopefully get to some of these kids. Good Job........we can't do it alone thats for sure.
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2008, 08:31:54 am »


Tommy thats awesome.  Thats the game that was mentioned. I bet half the parents out there don't supervise or even know what there kids are seeing on these games, MTV, and the internet. Its really a big problem and the training I'm doing with hopefully get to some of these kids. Good Job........we can't do it alone thats for sure.

Thanks a lot Defense.  When it comes to my son, I make it very clear.  He cannot play any M rated games.  And T rated games, I have to take a look at before he can play them.  Although he's almost 11 years old now, so sooner or later, I might just let him play T rated games. 
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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2008, 09:26:24 am »

Way to be responsible, Tommy.  I'm from BFE so nobody understands the ratings around here but most don't give a rat's ass anyway.  You know they don't know when they pick up Rock Band 2 for the PS3 and then grab a Wii guitar.  Is GTA IV the game you were talking about Defense? 

I still blame the parents (or lack of) for this first graders act.  You can't protect them from everything but there's got to be a middle ground.  Of course, I might think differently if I had kids.
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