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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2010, 01:54:40 am »

A lot of people will sit here and say they are disappointed with this season.  Im not because you should have seen this coming. While it would have been great to repeat or come close to achieving the success of the 11-5 season, you should have seen that with a tougher schedule that MIA would have a tough time.  Last  Season, Miami over-achieved. I could go on about that but i think its has been said once to often.

What I did not like is the play of the secondary.  While Smith and Davis look promising, the Safety * gasp* Gibril Wilson was a waste.

Henne at times look like he do some good things but looked like he really need a guy who can spread the defense.  Not his fault, not gonna put the jury out on him yet.

Not gonna talk bout the Pat whit EXPERIMENT Huh Roll Eyes

Once again.  Why wen thingz go good Ronnie Brown go down. Hope he comes back 100%

Cant wait til next season
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2010, 06:55:23 am »

Agree with DZA..

I am not sure what people expected. The schedule was quite difficult this year. When the season started many were picking Miami to finish 8 and 8. We lost our starting QB, RB, CB, NT and we still finished 7 and 9 while being competative in just about every game.

The 11-5 season was fun but we had an easier schedule and like DZA mentioned they overacheived and where a healthy ball club.

Without the major injuries I am sure that we would have finished with 10 wins.
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2010, 08:14:15 am »

My main reflection is that the management wasted a 2nd round pick last draft, and should've grabbed a WR with that pick.

I think I've mentioned that once or twice this year too!!  Grin  It's really hard to believe the intelligent blue collar football men of Parcells and Sparano would waste a 2nd on a gimmick player but that's exactly what it looks like. I really don't know Ireland too well so I have to assume it was his call. It certainly doesn't fit Tony or Bill's M.O. 
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2010, 08:47:33 pm »

My reflection is that the team had several opportunities to become an elite team and didn't. 

They had the opportunity to win any of these games: Indy, at SD, at NE, NO, at Buffalo, Houston, at Tennesee and Pittsburgh and couldn't do it. 

Ted Ginn had a shit year, our defense is terrible and Paul Pasqualoni needs to go, yes I'm ready to kick him out already, I like what I see from Henne so far but he needs a lot of polish too.

Pennington probably won't be back next year and if I were the GM I'd get rid of Porter right now.

I think we have a bright future at cornerback.  I'm not sold on Clemmons yet at safety but he's only a rookie so we'll see.  Reciever, we need someone either Ginn or a draft pick to step up. 

We may need running backs.

We definitely need a nose tackle.
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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2010, 08:12:44 am »

I think I've mentioned that once or twice this year too!!  Grin  It's really hard to believe the intelligent blue collar football men of Parcells and Sparano would waste a 2nd on a gimmick player but that's exactly what it looks like. I really don't know Ireland too well so I have to assume it was his call. It certainly doesn't fit Tony or Bill's M.O. 

I'm surprised that the braintrust would miss so badly on a 2nd rounder too.  But everyone makes mistakes.  Thankfully, the current regime doesn't make them with anywhere near the frequency that previous ones have.
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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2010, 09:58:13 am »

I'm surprised that the braintrust would miss so badly on a 2nd rounder too.  But everyone makes mistakes.  Thankfully, the current regime doesn't make them with anywhere near the frequency that previous ones have.

Although I think this regime has made some great picks, I think you need to take a closer look.

They probably are only hitting on about 50% of the picks. But people are so in love with the "braintrust" that they are overlooking all the misses. They took two RB's in their first draft who didn't make the team (Hilliard made the team after two years and injuries to two other RB's). The DE they took in the second round is sitting behind the DE they took in the 3rd round (could've used that second round pick for another position of need). They had a guard who they drafted in Rd 4 and hyped up, eventually get cut.
They had a 2nd rd QB who most of us agree should never have been drafted (No Tepop, I'm not talking about Henne). They took a WR in the 3rd round who never saw the field (and considering our WR's, that doesn't bode well for him), they took a "small school" TE in the 5th round who never made the team.

I really can't complain when they miss on guys they drafted in the 5th round or later, but to miss on a 2nd round pick (White), a 3rd round pick (Turner), and not get great production out of a second rounder (Merling) is a little upsetting.
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2010, 10:12:30 am »

FYI-  I know some people may disagree with my draft assessments. This is my opinion. You are entitled to yours, I'm entitled to mine. As I said, I think they have made some great picks and the team is moving in the right direction, but I can still criticize some moves (we won't even talk about free agency).
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2010, 10:48:39 am »

Although I think this regime has made some great picks, I think you need to take a closer look.

They probably are only hitting on about 50% of the picks. But people are so in love with the "braintrust" that they are overlooking all the misses. They took two RB's in their first draft who didn't make the team (Hilliard made the team after two years and injuries to two other RB's). The DE they took in the second round is sitting behind the DE they took in the 3rd round (could've used that second round pick for another position of need). They had a guard who they drafted in Rd 4 and hyped up, eventually get cut.
They had a 2nd rd QB who most of us agree should never have been drafted (No Tepop, I'm not talking about Henne). They took a WR in the 3rd round who never saw the field (and considering our WR's, that doesn't bode well for him), they took a "small school" TE in the 5th round who never made the team.

I really can't complain when they miss on guys they drafted in the 5th round or later, but to miss on a 2nd round pick (White), a 3rd round pick (Turner), and not get great production out of a second rounder (Merling) is a little upsetting.

You definitely raise some valid points.  Although I would say that given the crapshoot that the NFL draft is, 50% is pretty good.  Football at the pro level is such a completely different game from the college version (especially in the speed at which everything happens) that it is REALLY hard to judge college talent in terms of whether that college success will translate to pro success.  This is probably more true in football than any other sport.  So even if the "braintrust" is hitting on 50% of their picks, I'd say that is pretty good. 
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2010, 08:33:17 pm »

Although I think this regime has made some great picks, I think you need to take a closer look.

They probably are only hitting on about 50% of the picks. But people are so in love with the "braintrust" that they are overlooking all the misses. They took two RB's in their first draft who didn't make the team (Hilliard made the team after two years and injuries to two other RB's). The DE they took in the second round is sitting behind the DE they took in the 3rd round (could've used that second round pick for another position of need). They had a guard who they drafted in Rd 4 and hyped up, eventually get cut.
They had a 2nd rd QB who most of us agree should never have been drafted (No Tepop, I'm not talking about Henne). They took a WR in the 3rd round who never saw the field (and considering our WR's, that doesn't bode well for him), they took a "small school" TE in the 5th round who never made the team.

I really can't complain when they miss on guys they drafted in the 5th round or later, but to miss on a 2nd round pick (White), a 3rd round pick (Turner), and not get great production out of a second rounder (Merling) is a little upsetting.

I thought about this post most of the afternoon....I tottally agree about this year,Pat White, and Turner..(in Hindsight) .I think we Really Reached with Pat White,which makes it hurt worse.....I like Vontae (even though not at the time),I'm not as sold on Sean Smith,He started all 16 games, not real fast, no int's all year,a little hesitant to tackle people at times...I like Hartline, and Garner, not sure if he's the right one or not....

Last years Draft, I understand more....The two Backs,being drafte after Ronnie's knee injury....I remembered seeing Philip Merling being mocked alot to the Giants late in the first round,and we got him in the second round..While I'd like to get more production out of him,I don't think he's a reach like Pat white....I feel like the Trading of the 4th round pick for Fasano.Ayodele,and the Undrafted free agent signing of Devone Bess also makes last years draft not hurt near as bad.....
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2010, 11:22:29 am »

Although I think this regime has made some great picks, I think you need to take a closer look.

They probably are only hitting on about 50% of the picks. But people are so in love with the "braintrust" that they are overlooking all the misses. They took two RB's in their first draft who didn't make the team (Hilliard made the team after two years and injuries to two other RB's). The DE they took in the second round is sitting behind the DE they took in the 3rd round (could've used that second round pick for another position of need). They had a guard who they drafted in Rd 4 and hyped up, eventually get cut.
They had a 2nd rd QB who most of us agree should never have been drafted (No Tepop, I'm not talking about Henne). They took a WR in the 3rd round who never saw the field (and considering our WR's, that doesn't bode well for him), they took a "small school" TE in the 5th round who never made the team.

I really can't complain when they miss on guys they drafted in the 5th round or later, but to miss on a 2nd round pick (White), a 3rd round pick (Turner), and not get great production out of a second rounder (Merling) is a little upsetting.

Considering you were an advocate of keeping the Camoron regime around after the 2007 season, I understand why you are knit picking about the current braintrust.  Wink

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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2010, 11:32:47 am »

Considering you were an advocate of keeping the Camoron regime around after the 2007 season, I understand why you are knit picking about the current braintrust.  Wink



Um no. As I said, I'm happy with the direction the team is moving in, and think they have made some great picks. But that doesn't mean they are without fault. If you want to blindly say "they've made no mistakes", go right ahead and do that.

But I think they should be held accountable for the mistakes they make (some draft busts, Ernest Wilford, Gibril Wilson), just like they are praised for the good things they've done (Jake Long, Brian Hartline, etc).
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2010, 05:09:44 pm »

But I think they should be held accountable for the mistakes they make [...] Ernest Wilford

We're really not having a lot of luck with big receivers, right Turner?
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