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Landshark
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2011, 03:18:41 pm »

Saw this one coming a mile away. You can't survive what Tressel was caught doing. Can't lie to the NCAA either like he did. Plus an SI article coming out this week exposes more and puts his program in a worse light. He had to bolt before that SI article comes out this week.

Urban Meyer will be the next OSU coach after this upcoming season. OSU will try to take all the punishment and lumps this year and Urban will try and become a media darling at ESPN, then Urban will jump on that job after this upcoming season. He is the guy Ohio St wants

I agree with the fact that you can't survive what Tressel was doing.  He obviously was trying to cover up NCAA violations which led to more NCAA violations.  Next thing you know, his goose was cooked.

I don't see Urban Meyer going anywhere but to Notre Dame, and that is if he comes back to coaching at the college level.  He could end up being an offensive coordinator in the NFL, and his spread option may work for a while like it did in the SEC.  Then teams will figure out how to defend against it and he'll be exposed again like he was in 2010.
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2011, 06:36:17 pm »

Urban Myer is too big a name and caoch to be an offensive coordinator. That is a laughable notion to say the least
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2011, 10:24:01 pm »

Hitler reacts to Jim Tressel resigning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HWubSaqB9U
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2011, 11:30:41 am »

It's always the cover-up that is worse than the infraction. 

As I predicted a while back, it's always the cover-up, not the actual infraction.
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2011, 05:46:06 pm »

As I predicted a while back, it's always the cover-up, not the actual infraction.

you predicted? You were the one who said he wouldn't quit!  Cheesy
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2011, 08:01:16 pm »

Pryor drove to the Tressel retirement meeting on a suspended license in a new car. Wow I cannot see how the whole investigation pans out.
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2011, 09:22:03 pm »

Pryor drove to the Tressel retirement meeting on a suspended license in a new car. Wow I cannot see how the whole investigation pans out.

And the car had "dealer" tags.     How clueless is Pryor? 
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2011, 05:14:56 pm »

or maybe he doesn't give a rats ass about that corrupt ncaa system...

the entire ncaa, television, sponsors, all profit handsomely off of pryor's name while he gets nothing.

can we do away with this sham of an "amateur" league, and just have a true football development league where the players get paid for their services. why should the multi-billion dollar national football league benefit from a free minor league?
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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2011, 01:17:04 am »

or maybe he doesn't give a rats ass about that corrupt ncaa system...

the entire ncaa, television, sponsors, all profit handsomely off of pryor's name while he gets nothing.

can we do away with this sham of an "amateur" league, and just have a true football development league where the players get paid for their services. why should the multi-billion dollar national football league benefit from a free minor league?

Just how much does full tuition and books cost a year at Ohio State? It is called a free ride for a reason.
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« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2011, 03:31:59 pm »

yeah that basket weaving class is going to pay off big time for these guys.

sponsors, ncaa, tv stations, all earn millions and millions of dollars of these guys, yet they come back with they get free general studies courses.

serious students go to university to hone their long term professional crafts. the guys from the hood that basically carry entire athletic departments on their backs, should be equally compensated for their services.

if there were an appropriate minor league for football, none of these guys would go get that free basket weaving class, and ncaa would see their revenue streams dry up. this is all about money, and the only ones making large piles of it are benefiting because the actual folks doing the work are not paid.
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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2011, 04:59:13 pm »

How many NCAA football players within the BCS have legitimate shots at the NFL anyway? The NCAA is not and should not be considered a launching pad to being a professional athlete.

Also, there are lower level football leagues these guys could play in instead but they don't because that level of football is so watered down most D1 teams would beat them. They chose the NCAA and should live by that choice.
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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2011, 05:43:31 pm »

please... the ncaa, specifically division 1 football, has a monopoly on a free development league for the nfl. it is the only gig in town.

the ncaa, its sponsors, school athletic departments, and anyone who doesn't actually play in games, rake in millions and millions of dollars per year off the backs of unpaid athletes. its the definition of a system based on socialism and is anti-american in every conceivable way.

top athletes in these schools based on their individual revenue value for these schools would easily have valuations of $500K per year.

at the very least, the nazi ncaa can let these guys work jobs or sign marketing deals. last time i checked this is a country based on capitalism, and this corrupt ncaa system that is lining the pockets of a select few, with absolutely no labor costs, should be abolished.

hiding under this bullshit of "student" athlete is so freaking annoying too. these guys at the ncaa could give two shits about academics at these universities. the budgets of entire colleges within universities is not even pocket change compared to what athletic departments run on. hell you have increasing tuition, cancelling of entire departments, cut-backs on enrollments, laying off professors, all while athletic departments like texas bring in $100 million in pure revenue a year. texas literally cannot service it's academic responsibilities anymore, while it's athletic department could afford to pay top salaries to not just the head coach, but also the head coach in waiting. at notre dame, charlie weiss still collects a guaranteed salary check from the athletic department for how many millions.

fine, the ncaa has a good product that people are willing to pay top dollar for. no beef with that, but the folks that actually provide the big part of the product should be equitably paid.
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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2011, 07:09:24 pm »

TITLE IX...people always forget about that. And thats why college athletes won't be paid!

If you pay any NCAA athelte (ie football players) then you must pay every female athlete as well. And then you get into , well I can make $400 a game at Tulane, but if I go to Pitt I can make $800 a game, and if I go to Alabama I will make $1,000 a game. Now you have a free market society within college sports where you can openly buy players at all costs. Recruiting is dead, its now "FREE AGENCY" among high school kids!

Now since those players are getting paid, they will want to unionize. Hey they are working joe's getting paid, they have the right to a union. A right to make sure their equipment is top shelf, they aren't worked to the bone, and a millions other things. Not to mention workers comp and other things provided to working people. Oh wait, an agent. Hell yeah they can have an agent and will want one too, and whats to prevent college athletes from working a 2nd job or a 3rd job. Or doing autograph shows mid-week and making more money. Hey as long as they are passing their classes, and staying eligable...go for it! They are workers! Work as many jobs as ya want and make a truck load of money while you can. This is America,,,go for it!

Oh and if you DON'T pay close to equal pay to the female vollyball player, female field hockey player, female tennis player.....get ready for the lawsuits to come pouring in. Because that TITLE IX thing and its the year 2011 in the USA and women have equal rights too!  I mean if Northwestern Football goes 2-7 and their players are making $500 a game. And the Northwestern Girls Tennis team goes 9-0 and wins the national championship and they are only making $75 a game, hey wait. That's unfair, they are gonna sue. We put out results and win the other guys are losing, yet they make more money. You have a school that is ANTI-WOMEN and a hundred lawyers lined up ready to bring them to court!

Sound crazy and far fetched....yep. But that is the slippery slope you start when you begin PAYING football and basketball players. And thats why it will NEVER be done! EVER! NEVER! EVER!
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« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2011, 12:25:51 am »

Just how much does full tuition and books cost a year at Ohio State? It is called a free ride for a reason.
The cost of a tuition is miniscule compared to the money that the NCAA rakes in from their college sports programs.
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« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2011, 12:44:37 am »

TITLE IX...people always forget about that. And thats why college athletes won't be paid!

If you pay any NCAA athelte (ie football players) then you must pay every female athlete as well.
So what?  Pay is based on revenue.  Done.

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And then you get into , well I can make $400 a game at Tulane, but if I go to Pitt I can make $800 a game, and if I go to Alabama I will make $1,000 a game. Now you have a free market society within college sports where you can openly buy players at all costs. Recruiting is dead, its now "FREE AGENCY" among high school kids!
Wait... are you suggesting a system in which kids choose their college based on things other than the quality of the education they will receive? Well, we obviously can't have that!  Such a system would be an affront to the very concept of higher educ... OH, WAIT.

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Now since those players are getting paid, they will want to unionize. Hey they are working joe's getting paid, they have the right to a union. A right to make sure their equipment is top shelf, they aren't worked to the bone, and a millions other things. Not to mention workers comp and other things provided to working people. Oh wait, an agent. Hell yeah they can have an agent and will want one too, and whats to prevent college athletes from working a 2nd job or a 3rd job. Or doing autograph shows mid-week and making more money. Hey as long as they are passing their classes, and staying eligable...go for it! They are workers! Work as many jobs as ya want and make a truck load of money while you can. This is America,,,go for it!
Seems to work for the minor leagues in baseball.  And for every pro sport for decades upon decades.

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Oh and if you DON'T pay close to equal pay to the female vollyball player, female field hockey player, female tennis player.....get ready for the lawsuits to come pouring in. Because that TITLE IX thing and its the year 2011 in the USA and women have equal rights too!  I mean if Northwestern Football goes 2-7 and their players are making $500 a game. And the Northwestern Girls Tennis team goes 9-0 and wins the national championship and they are only making $75 a game, hey wait. That's unfair, they are gonna sue. We put out results and win the other guys are losing, yet they make more money. You have a school that is ANTI-WOMEN and a hundred lawyers lined up ready to bring them to court!
I agree.  This is exactly the logic behind the famous lawsuit in 2004 when the players of the WNBA's Seattle Storm, having just won the WNBA championship, sued the team's owners (who also owned the Supersonics) because they made less money than the players of the Sonics (who failed to even make the playoffs).  And the WNBA players won that lawsuit, which is why WNBA players make exactly the same salaries as NBA players today.

TRUST ME, THAT REALLY HAPPENED.
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