Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
May 21, 2025, 03:48:54 pm
Home Help Search Calendar Login Register
News: Brian Fein is now blogging weekly!  Make sure to check the homepage for his latest editorial.
+  The Dolphins Make Me Cry.com - Forums
|-+  TDMMC Forums
| |-+  Other Sports Talk (Moderator: MaineDolFan)
| | |-+  NBA Team Mascots: Do they "make sense"?
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 Print
Author Topic: NBA Team Mascots: Do they "make sense"?  (Read 6344 times)
jtex316
YJFF Member
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 11007


2011 NFC East Champions!


« on: May 23, 2011, 02:35:15 pm »

The thread on the Wizards' uniform change and subsequent discussion on their mascot name has got me thinking: Do the NBA team mascots fit the city / area which they represent?

Let's find out if the mascot can, in any way, shape, or form be associated with the city:

Boston Celtics: Yes
(It's a reference to the Irish community. Boston = Irish Community)

New Jersey Nets: Yes
(It's a name that has to do with the sport, the "net" of the hoop - but it was cheesily named to rhyme with the Mets and the Jets)

New York Knicks: Yes
(Knicks = Knickerbockers, and New York state's heritage is full of 'em)

Philadelphia 76ers: Yes
(We sort of became independent in 1776, and Philadelphia is sort-of where it all went down).

Toronto Raptors: No
(The team name was influenced by the movie Jurrasic Park and was left up to a fan vote / fan contest, for fuck's sake. Hell no).

Chicago Bulls: No
(If the Bulls played from Pamplona, then yes. However, Chicago is not known for it's male cattle population)

Cleveland Cavaliers: No
(Another team mascot left up to a fan vote. After everything they've recently experienced, they should change logos to something more appropriate, like the Cleveland Cry Babies)

Detroit Pistons: Yes
(Obvious reference to the auto industry which is still big in Detroit, despite recent times)

Indiana Pacers: Yes
(The Pacers name is a reference to the Indy 500 pace car colors, and the Indy 500 is big in Indiana)

Milwaukee Bucks: Yes
(I don't know this first hand, but I am guessing that the "Buck" density in Wisconsin is probably large enough to where this makes sense. Fear the deer!)

Atlanta Hawks: No
(There are no "hawks" in the Atlanta area. This is a team that has had it's name changed and edited a few times, and the franchise never bothered to change it)

Charlotte Bobcats: Yes
(The bobcat is a popular species of the wild in North Carolina)

Miami Heat: Yes
(Ever been to South Florida? It's hot as balls. This 100% makes sense)

Orlando Magic: Yes
(Obvious reference to the "Magic Kingdom", where the Magic play)

Washington Wizards: No
(This was changed after an uprorar over the prior mascot "Bullets", which as some of you pointed out, makes more sense given the crime rate of the Baltimore-DC area)

Dallas Mavericks: Yes
(The name came from an old western TV series, all about cowboys and guns and stuff, which is perfect for Texas)

Houston Rockets: Yes
(Kennedy Space Center in Florida is where most rockets actually take off from, but Houston monitors them)

Memphis Grizzlies: No
(Another lazy franchise unwilling to change mascot names after their move to a new city, so we're stuck with Grizzlies for an area / state known for Dolly Parton, Elvis, and music)

New Orleans Hornets: No
(Again, nothing about New Orleans screams "Hornets" to me. So many french / musical / cultural influences to derive from, but yet, they go with "Hornets")

San Antonio Spurs: Yes
(A spur is the little spiky thing that cowboys wear on the ankles of their boots. Anything western for a team in Texas is appropriate)

Denver Nuggets: No
(The team name was selected by a fan vote, after Rockets and after Larks, which is the Colorado state bird. The Nuggets mascot was used in the 30's by the original Denver Nuggets, and probably didn't make sense then, either)

Minnesota Timberwolves: Yes
(Like the Bucks, I am not going to challenge the existence of deadly wild animals in states where animals nearly out-number humans).

Portland Trail Blazers: No
(There are many cities that could be considered "Trail Blazers". Why Portland?)

Oklahoma City Thunder: Yes
(Ever been to OKC? Probably not, I imagine. There are lots of tornadoes and thunderstorms there).

Utah Jazz: No
(They used to be the New Orleans Jazz [Perfect Name!!!], but when they moved to Salt Lake City, the team didn't have the guts to change the name. Perhaps the Utah Mormons or Utah Quacks or the Utah Magic Underwears may suit them better?)

Golden State Warriors: No
(They never changed the name from when the franchised moved from Philadelphia - and you can tell by now that I don't like this practice)

Los Angeles Clippers: No
(What the hell is a Clipper?)

Los Angeles Lakers: No
(The Lakers were originally named after the Great Lakes bordering Minnesota / Minneapolis. However, due to obvious popularity and historical notoriety, this team name is never going to change).

Phoenix Suns: Yes
(If Phoenix has one thing, it's sunshine. Lots of it. Perfect sense this makes).

Sacramento Kings: No
(They had their chance when they moved from Cincinnati to Kansas City to change this meaningless name, but they didn't take advantage of it then, and sure aren't going to do anything about it now).
Logged

Giants: '56 NFL Champs; Super Bowl XXI, XXV, XLII Champs
Sunstroke
YJFF Member
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 22904

Stop your bloodclot cryin'!


Email
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2011, 02:44:52 pm »

Chicago Bulls: No
(If the Bulls played from Pamplona, then yes. However, Chicago is not known for it's male cattle population)

Yes:  Chicago is widely known for its stockyards. You can smell the cow dung all over the city.

Denver Nuggets: No
(The team name was selected by a fan vote, after Rockets and after Larks, which is the Colorado state bird. The Nuggets mascot was used in the 30's by the original Denver Nuggets, and probably didn't make sense then, either)

Yes: Reference to the gold nuggets in the popular mining region of Colorado.

Los Angeles Clippers: No
(What the hell is a Clipper?)

Yes:
A Clipper is a reference to a Clipper ship, which is perfectly suitable for a coastal city like Los Angeles.

Logged

"There's no such thing as objectivity. We're all just interpreting signals from the universe and trying to make sense of them. Dim, shaky, weak, staticky little signals that only hint at the complexity of a universe that we cannot begin to comprehend."
~ Micah Leggat
jtex316
YJFF Member
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 11007


2011 NFC East Champions!


« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2011, 02:54:59 pm »

^

Chicago Bulls

We have the White Sox, the Cubs, the Blackhawks, and the Bears in Chicago. 3 of 4 team names are wild, un-stock-yardable animals. How do the Bulls really fit in here?

When I think of Chicago, I think of:

- Big City
- Pizza
- Windy City
- Sears Tower

"Bulls" is a stretch - but like the Lakers - you can't change the team name of the team that Michael Jordan played on

Denver Nuggets:

There are plenty of geographical areas in the United States where gold-mining is highly relevant (San Fransisco, for example). When I think of Denver, I think of:

- Mountains
- "Mile-High" above sea level
- Cold
- Skiing / Snowboarding

The Nuggets don't have a history like the Lakers or Bulls do - this team name is ripe for the picking of a change in mascot

Los Angeles Clippers

Is it also suitable for a city like San Diego? Because that's where the franchise obtained this mascot name. Every coastal city has some type of harbor / man-made bay - San Diego could have come up with something much better and more unique to the city - but the move to Los Angeles should have sparked a name change.

The Clippers are a miserable existence of a franchise with no hope whatsoever (and don't say "Blake Griffin" - the Clippers have been a "sleeper" team for 25 years now). They could be the L.A. Smog or the L.A. Traffic Jam or L.A. Brush Fires. Or, the L.A. Stars, in reference to the stars that live and frequent the Staples Center.
Logged

Giants: '56 NFL Champs; Super Bowl XXI, XXV, XLII Champs
Sunstroke
YJFF Member
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 22904

Stop your bloodclot cryin'!


Email
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2011, 03:21:16 pm »

^

Chicago Bulls

We have the White Sox, the Cubs, the Blackhawks, and the Bears in Chicago. 3 of 4 team names are wild, un-stock-yardable animals. How do the Bulls really fit in here?

I'm sorry...was I supposed to justify "all the team names" within a market? Or just Da Bulls? I went with the latter.

When I think of Denver, I think of:

I wasn't trying to think "from Joe's mental perspective"...I was just throwing information out there to justify the team name as it relates to its location.

Los Angeles Clippers

Is it also suitable for a city like San Diego? Because that's where the franchise obtained this mascot name. Every coastal city has some type of harbor / man-made bay - San Diego could have come up with something much better and more unique to the city - but the move to Los Angeles should have sparked a name change.

So, basically, you weren't looking for feedback...just a place to rant. My bad.

Logged

"There's no such thing as objectivity. We're all just interpreting signals from the universe and trying to make sense of them. Dim, shaky, weak, staticky little signals that only hint at the complexity of a universe that we cannot begin to comprehend."
~ Micah Leggat
masterfins
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 5619



« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2011, 03:31:46 pm »

^^I'm with ya Stroke.  I was thinking the same thing about the bulls & nuggets, I think they are appropriate.
Logged
Phishfan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 15777



« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2011, 03:34:37 pm »

I grade this high on effort, but low on actual research and ability to alter. I immediately thought of the Stock Yards when the Bulls were mentioned.
Logged
Spider-Dan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 16153


Bay Area Niner-Hater


« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2011, 04:29:49 pm »

The Hornets shouldn't have anything to do with the city of New Orleans, since they were originally the Charlotte Hornets (not that I know what Charlotte has to do with hornets).

As for the Portland Trail Blazers: I presume you've heard of the Oregon Trail?  Or Lewis and Clark?  Oregon isn't famous for much else.
Logged

fyo
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 7548


4866.5 miles from Dolphin Stadium


« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2011, 06:03:39 pm »

Denver Nuggets are EXTREMELY APPROPRIATE. The Colorado Territory was established after Colorado Gold Rush of the late 1850s, which brought the first major influx of settlers.

The miners were actually called "59'ers", like the 49'ers of the California Gold Rush a decade earlier.

That's an F in American History, folks.
Logged
Spider-Dan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 16153


Bay Area Niner-Hater


« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 10:12:21 pm »

As a side note on the Hornets:

If Sacramento loses the Kings and someone moves the Hornets to Sacramento, that would be extremely appropriate (if confusing).
Logged

Sunstroke
YJFF Member
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 22904

Stop your bloodclot cryin'!


Email
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2011, 11:05:00 pm »

As a side note on the Hornets:

If Sacramento loses the Kings and someone moves the Hornets to Sacramento, that would be extremely appropriate (if confusing).

Add the local paper (the Sacramento Bee) into the mix, and you'd have a decidedly entomological feel going on...

Logged

"There's no such thing as objectivity. We're all just interpreting signals from the universe and trying to make sense of them. Dim, shaky, weak, staticky little signals that only hint at the complexity of a universe that we cannot begin to comprehend."
~ Micah Leggat
Thundergod
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 3142


« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2011, 01:13:59 am »

I've always been in the minority when it comes to team names/mascots. IMO I don't deem it necessary for teams to ALWAYS match the mascot to the city they're in. For every team name that makes "no sense" regarding the city, you have those forced names to match the city (Magic, Heat, Thunder etc.) that are as equally stupid sounding.
Logged
Spider-Dan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 16153


Bay Area Niner-Hater


« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2011, 09:47:55 pm »

A little late, but:

We have the White Sox, the Cubs, the Blackhawks, and the Bears in Chicago. 3 of 4 team names are wild, un-stock-yardable animals.
Saying that the Blackhawks are named after an animal is like saying that the Browns are named after a color.

Logged

Dave Gray
Administrator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 30974

It's doo-doo, baby!

26384964 davebgray@comcast.net davebgray floridadavegray
WWW Email
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2011, 10:37:27 am »

Raptors had feathers and are actually pretty small (only thigh high).  The ones in Jurassic Park (after which the Toronto mascot is modeled) isn't what they look like at all.
Logged

I drink your milkshake!
bsmooth
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 4638


I love YaBB 1G - SP1!


« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2011, 07:24:46 pm »

^

Chicago Bulls

We have the White Sox, the Cubs, the Blackhawks, and the Bears in Chicago. 3 of 4 team names are wild, un-stock-yardable animals. How do the Bulls really fit in here?

When I think of Chicago, I think of:

- Big City
- Pizza
- Windy City
- Sears Tower

"Bulls" is a stretch - but like the Lakers - you can't change the team name of the team that Michael Jordan played on

- Mountains
- "Mile-High" above sea level
- Cold
- Skiing / Snowboarding.

The Nuggets don't have a history like the Lakers or Bulls do - this team name is ripe for the picking of a change in mascot
Logged
Sunstroke
YJFF Member
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 22904

Stop your bloodclot cryin'!


Email
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2011, 08:30:55 pm »


Throws a flag at the B-Smoothie for piling on...

Wink

Logged

"There's no such thing as objectivity. We're all just interpreting signals from the universe and trying to make sense of them. Dim, shaky, weak, staticky little signals that only hint at the complexity of a universe that we cannot begin to comprehend."
~ Micah Leggat
Pages: [1] 2 Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

The Dolphins Make Me Cry - Copyright© 2008 - Designed and Marketed by Dave Gray


Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines