Where are the parents of the bad kids?

[Spider-Dan]

So wait, divorce is a "necessary evil," yet "if you make a commitment you should follow through with it"?  How are those both true?

I have a related question:

If you do not believe people should get married unless they are willing to stay married until death, is the approved solution for people to simply live together?  I mean, divorce rates cannot apply to people who aren't married...

[Buddhagirl]

If you don't love someone don't marry them, it's really that simple. If you say the words, "til death do us part", you are in fact making a commitment. Aside from abuse or infidelity. If you just find yourself in a "loveless" marriage you should just deal with it. You made the free will decision now deal with the consequences. As an adult, if you make a commitment you should follow through with it. If you can't do that then you might be one of the "bad kids" that this thread is about.

Divorce is a necessary evil? I can't even. Are you another one of these religious nuts? You have the simple thoughts of most religious nuts.

Ha ha, I was wondering the same thing. It's all making sense now, that cat is out of the bag.

I have a low tolerance for stupidity and since most of the stupid here tend to be men maybe that's why you feel I  bash men. Some of my best friends are men and know that I would never do anything to offend them. 

And for the record, I do believe that "Landshark" is a catfishing all y'all.

[CF DolFan]

Divorce is a necessary evil? I can't even. Are you another one of these religious nuts? You have the simple thoughts of most religious nuts.

When did taking an oath (for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part) and meaning it become a "religious nut" experience? I've been to more weddings than I can count and even my atheist friends have never included a line that says "unless I change my mind, get bored, find someone new, decide to indulge in the single life I didn't experience as as a 20 year old or to find myself".   

This thread is an overall example of the original point.  No one takes accountability for anything. No matter the "crime" it's just good people doing something bad. It really had nothing to do with the "bad choices" leading up to it because there is nothing they could have done.

Somehow it's become worse in this country to be a working functional family than it is to not be politically correct and offend people who make bad decisions.

[Buddhagirl]

I mentioned nothing about an oath. I asked if he's a religious nut because of his simplistic views on things. Keep up!

[CF DolFan]

I mentioned nothing about an oath. I asked if he's a religious nut because of his simplistic views on things. Keep up!

Obviously I have no issue with keeping up. You quoted his comment about not getting married if you you don't intend on staying married and called him both simple-minded and a religious nut. This is exactly what I responded to.

If I didn't know better I would tend to believe that your post is both name calling as well as inciting to another poster. But that couldn't be because it's against the rules and you wouldn't do that.

[Buddhagirl]

Obviously I have no issue with keeping up. You quoted his comment about not getting married if you you don't intend on staying married and called him both simple-minded and a religious nut. This is exactly what I responded to.

Mentioning the oath is not what makes me think he's a religious nut. It's the simple view that people can just force themselves to stay married and  that you can just will a relationship to succeed.

Name calling? Inciting to another poster? Please.

[Phishfan]

And for the record, I do believe that "Landshark" is a catfishing all y'all.

I would not say all of us.

[Sunstroke]

If I didn't know better I would tend to believe that your post is both name calling as well as inciting to another poster.

If asking someone if they are a religious nutjob triggers your "offensive" alarms, especially in the middle of a hotly contested thread about divorce, after the alleged religious nutjob in question laughed at her and referred to her as a male-basher, then you might want to recalibrate that alarm...or just strive to be more in touch with reality. 

And for the record, I do believe that "Shandlark" is a catfishing all y'all.

Gee, ya think?

[Spider-Dan]

When did taking an oath (for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part) and meaning it become a "religious nut" experience?

How many lifetime oaths are even legally permitted by law in this country?

The idea of a commitment that lasts for the rest of your life is kind of silly, when you think about it.  A job that required a lifetime commitment would be insane (not to mention illegal).

[pondwater]

So wait, divorce is a "necessary evil," yet "if you make a commitment you should follow through with it"?  How are those both true?

Pretty simple to understand. I feel that in certain circumstances divorce is warranted, hence an at fault divorce. However, for the most part,I feel that no-fault divorces are for the lazy, selfish, and people who cannot accept responsibility.

I have a related question:

If you do not believe people should get married unless they are willing to stay married until death, is the approved solution for people to simply live together?  I mean, divorce rates cannot apply to people who aren't married...

Yep, that's what I'm doing right now. I have been in a relationship for 2 years and I'm not sure that I want to marry this person. Hell, I'm not sure that I'll ever get married. If I do decide to get married, I expect it to be for life.

[pondwater]

Divorce is a necessary evil? I can't even. Are you another one of these religious nuts? You have the simple thoughts of most religious nuts.

Hate to break it to you chick, I don't do religion at all. Ain't my thing.

I have a low tolerance for stupidity and since most of the stupid here tend to be men maybe that's why you feel I  bash men. Some of my best friends are men and know that I would never do anything to offend them. 

You totally have it wrong.  I was agreeing with Landshark that it seems by your posts that you aren't too successful in relationships. Kind of sad actually, you'll probably be mostly alone for the majority of your life. Furthermore, I could care less who you bash, have at it. I'm secure enough with my simple thoughts to handle cold, bitter, and frigid old women.

And for the record, I do believe that "Landshark" is a catfishing all y'all.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. Please continue.

[Landshark]

And for the record, I do believe that "Landshark" is a catfishing all y'all.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. Please continue.

I have no idea what she's talking about either.  Never heard the term before.  Maybe it's the smell coming from between her legs.

[pondwater]

Mentioning the oath is not what makes me think he's a religious nut. It's the simple view that people can just force themselves to stay married and  that you can just will a relationship to succeed.

"Force themselves to stay married"? Who forced them to get married in the first place? It was a choice. And before the choice is made the person that makes the choice should have been aware and certain that marriage is "until death do us part". Some thing in life affect other people. What if you want a divorce and your spouse doesn't? Should they have to give up their rights in a mutually agreed upon contract for your selfishness? If you buy a new car and your payment is $300.00 a month should the lender be able to jack your payments up or repo the car if you are abiding by the contract? The main problem in this country is selfish child like people who lack responsibility for their actions. As an adult, if you say that you're going to do something, whatever it is, just fucking do it.

[pondwater]

If asking someone if they are a religious nutjob triggers your "offensive" alarms, especially in the middle of a hotly contested thread about divorce, after the alleged religious nutjob in question laughed at her and referred to her as a male-basher, then you might want to recalibrate that alarm...or just strive to be more in touch with reality. 

Gee, ya think?

If you are talking about me. Again, I never said anything about "male bashing". I was agreeing with Landshark, that it seems the chick in question has never been in a relationship. At least not a happy, long term, mutually loving one, and probably won't ever be, but I could be wrong. Thanks

[Phishfan]

I think the term "successful relationship" is a relative one. What I would consider a successful one someone else might not.