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« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2015, 09:45:24 am »

Mike Vick hurt dogs. Hernandez shot and killed another human being and more than just once and has ties to violent Gangs.  It's a bad comparison

But if he's found not guilty...
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« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2015, 09:50:09 am »

Ray Lewis?

Ray Lewis didn't kill anyone. He gave misleading information to the police and denied (lied) being at the scene of a murder.
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2015, 09:50:37 am »

But if he's found not guilty...

Being found not guilty and being innocent are 2 different things.

OJ was found "not guilty" but then lost a civil suit because the evidence was so overwhelming that he did kill 2 people
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2015, 10:28:01 am »

Here's the interesting question... If Hernandez is found innocent of all charges, is there any chance he gets back in the NFL?

Do you mean all three murder charges?   Because if he walks on this one, he's going to be immediately re-arrested and charged with those other two murders from 2012.  The time to investigate those would take at least two more years.   That would wipe out four seasons for him.  Who knows what skills he will have left after that?
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« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2015, 10:40:41 am »

Ray Lewis didn't kill anyone. He gave misleading information to the police and denied (lied) being at the scene of a murder.
And if Hernandez is found not guilty, how is the result different from Ray Lewis?
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« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2015, 10:54:40 am »

And if Hernandez is found not guilty, how is the result different from Ray Lewis?

Totally different. Just because the prosecution does a poor job and Hernandez walks doesn't mean he didn't do it. Lewis was never on trial for murder, he was a witness for the prosecution
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« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2015, 11:11:47 am »

Lewis was never on trial for murder, he was a witness for the prosecution

You misremember (Thank you Roger Clemens, I love that word). Lewis was indeed on trial for the murder charge but took a plea deal after it started and became a witness.
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2015, 11:22:58 am »

Mike Vick hurt dogs. Hernandez shot and killed another human being and more than just once and has ties to violent Gangs.  It's a bad comparison
It is a bad comparison, in that the general public is far more outraged about killing dogs than killing adult humans.

And yes, Lewis was originally a murder suspect but pled down in exchange for his testimony.
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« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2015, 10:04:50 am »

And yes, Lewis was originally a murder suspect but pled down in exchange for his testimony.
You can be a suspect but if the prosecution thought he was THE murderer, I doubt they'd offer him a plea deal.  They don't really do that to prime suspects.
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« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2015, 10:35:37 am »

^^^ He was more than a suspect. That is the complete wrong term. He was a co-defendant. The trial had started before he took a plea deal.
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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2015, 05:10:31 pm »

Here's the interesting question... If Hernandez is found innocent of all charges, is there any chance he gets back in the NFL?



If Hernandez if found innocent of all charges, he has a second pending murder case against him.
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« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2015, 06:10:20 pm »

If Hernandez if found innocent of all charges, he has a second pending murder case against him.

That was understood when I posted the question. I used the phrase "found innocent of all charges" to encompass any new charges beyond the current trial.


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« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2015, 11:39:10 am »

It is a bad comparison, in that the general public is far more outraged about killing dogs than killing adult humans.

And yes, Lewis was originally a murder suspect but pled down in exchange for his testimony.

It was obvious that Lewis didn't commit the murder, but he was a member of the group that took part in the altercation that left those two men dead.   He was there and he knew who did.  There's a reason why the prosecution cut a plea deal with him.  They knew their case against him was shaky at best.
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« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2015, 12:12:58 pm »

That was understood when I posted the question. I used the phrase "found innocent of all charges" to encompass any new charges beyond the current trial.



The answer is still no. It would take a couple more years still. Too much time.
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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2015, 12:40:09 pm »

Is anyone else concerned about the length of the deliberations? This is the fifth day and I think they called it fairly early on some of the other days they went home. I'm expecting this might not go as I imagined.
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