It's official: Hillary vs. Trump

[pondwater]

And I'm tired of it, so I want to repeal the amendment.

You do understand that is not a realistic expectation?

[pondwater]

things like protecting abortion rights,

Abortion is legal in 2016 and has been for a while.

expanding Obamacare,

How can you expand Obamacare when the companies are pulling out of the marketplace due to heavy financial losses and premiums are skyrocketing. It's starting to crumble as predicted.

pushing for more climate change legislation,

You mean more taxes and regulations that will do nothing.

helping to reduce the number of guns in this country,

That's not going to happen short of going door to door to confiscate them. Good luck with that one.

providing a path to citizenship for productive illegal immigrants, etc.

Why would you want to help someone already doing something illegal?

[Fau Teixeira]

This weekend was a complete dumpster fire of a weekend for Trump. He's an unmitigated disaster.

[masterfins]

This weekend was a complete dumpster fire of a weekend for Trump. He's an unmitigated disaster.

Come November very few people will remember this past weekend.  He's Teflon Don, not much sticks to him in the minds of his followers.

[Tenshot13]

This weekend was a complete dumpster fire of a weekend for Trump. He's an unmitigated disaster.

What happened over the weekend?  I've been busy.  Plus, Sharknado 4 was on last night, so you know, priorities.

[Fau Teixeira]

Trump got into a verbal fight with the parents of a soldier killed by an IED who got awarded a bronze star.  Basically called out the mom, inferred a Muslim stereotype and was basically an asshole.

[Spider-Dan]

To go into slightly more detail:  the dad said (paraphrased) that his Muslim family had made the ultimate sacrifice for our country, and that Trump had sacrificed nothing.  Trump responded that he had sacrificed plenty - by creating businesses - and said that the mom didn't speak (along with the dad) because Muslim wives probably aren't allowed to speak.  The mom then responded and said that the reason she didn't speak is because she is still trying to cope with the loss of her son and was barely able to keep her composure on the stage with a giant picture of him on the screen.

Ultimately, I think masterfins is right: no one will care in 2 weeks.  When was the last time the media mentioned that Trump likes veterans who weren't captured?  We are in a perpetual state of "on to the next Trump controversy," and the media happily dances along as the overnight ratings come in.

[pondwater]

I wouldn't call it a dumpster fire disaster. The media, like usual, blew something WAY out of proportion.

[Spider-Dan]

I would be very interested in hearing what the correct proportional response is to, say, a Presidential candidate proposing to ban everyone of a specific religion from entering the country.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

It is clear that Trump can even handle the basic presidential duty of comforting the families of fallen miltary heros. 

[Spider-Dan]

Trump probably likes people that weren't killed by the enemy.

[CF DolFan]

First off when the Dad said "that his Muslim family had made the ultimate sacrifice for our country, and that Trump had sacrificed nothing" with all due respect ... he was being an arrogant prick who is trying to live off his dead sons honor. His family didn't sacrifice ... his son did. He did it on his own accord and many of us are thankful for him and others like him.  His family suffers the consequences of his decision to serve but they made no sacrifice for this country.

I'm one of the first to support our military and if his family wants to honor him by telling his story that's awesome but don't pretend you deserve the same honor and that someone else doesn't. That's complete BS and propaganda for the weak. No one is forced to serve and Trump doesn't have to either.  We all get the same freedoms regardless.

The worst part of this whole story is how the liberal Media is treating it so they can deflect form all of hillary's controversies. Just like they made Trayvon and Michael Brown martyrs for no reason ... they are doing the same to this man so they can avoid asking Hillary why 75% of the US thinks she should be charged.  He's a name caller no better than the person he is attacking but has turned into a hero all due to deflection. 

[Spider-Dan]

First off when the Dad said "that his Muslim family had made the ultimate sacrifice for our country, and that Trump had sacrificed nothing" with all due respect ... he was being an arrogant prick who is trying to live off his dead sons honor. His family didn't sacrifice ... his son did. He did it on his own accord and many of us are thankful for him and others like him.  His family suffers the consequences of his decision to serve but they made no sacrifice for this country.

The idea that surviving family members of fallen soldiers have "sacrificed nothing" is an interesting and innovative new perspective on military service in this country.

Given that the NC GOP was just lambasted after attacking Tim Kaine for wearing his Blue Star pin while giving his convention speech, I would think this point was already settled... but apparently, it is indeed open season on the families of those who serve.

[pondwater]

First off when the Dad said "that his Muslim family had made the ultimate sacrifice for our country, and that Trump had sacrificed nothing" with all due respect ... he was being an arrogant prick who is trying to live off his dead sons honor. His family didn't sacrifice ... his son did. He did it on his own accord and many of us are thankful for him and others like him.  His family suffers the consequences of his decision to serve but they made no sacrifice for this country.

I'm one of the first to support our military and if his family wants to honor him by telling his story that's awesome but don't pretend you deserve the same honor and that someone else doesn't. That's complete BS and propaganda for the weak. No one is forced to serve and Trump doesn't have to either.  We all get the same freedoms regardless.

The worst part of this whole story is how the liberal Media is treating it so they can deflect form all of hillary's controversies. Just like they made Trayvon and Michael Brown martyrs for no reason ... they are doing the same to this man so they can avoid asking Hillary why 75% of the US thinks she should be charged.  He's a name caller no better than the person he is attacking but has turned into a hero all due to deflection. 

The thing is that the guy brought Trump into the conversation. You want to honor your dead kid, fine. Trump has nothing to do with it. It was pure political posturing and the media eats that shit up.

[Spider-Dan]

You're both trying to blame the Khans and the media when the plain and simple fact is that this was yet another unforced error by Trump.

When the GOP trotted out the mother of Sean Smith (who died in Benghazi) to personally blame Hillary Clinton for the death of her son, there is a very straightforward course of action in response: say nothing and move on.  Hillary didn't immediately start attacking that grieving mother because that is a transparently stupid choice.  Just say NOTHING and move on.

But Trump can't say nothing.  He HAS to respond with a counterattack; his fragile ego demands it.  This is yet another reason why he would be a terrible President.