Will sports teams visits to the White House be coming to an end?

[CF DolFan]

This phrasing says so much about your political thought process...

How about we split instead into two nations...Democrats and religious zealots.

...see what I did there?

If you want to say conservative and liberal I have no issue with that but the face of the Democrats right now is socialist and you know it is. Even many of the Democrats are realizing that crap is getting out of control. Conservative Democrats left with Lieberman but the days of Nancy, Chuck and Biden are slipping away too. I can live in a Clinton America. I don't know that I want to live in a Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez world.

[pondwater]

I don't know that I want to live in a Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez world.

That bitch is fucking nuts. That's all, bye bye 

[Spider-Dan]

He didn't take from anyone nor did he order anyone to take from anyone.

Isn't tithing mandated?

I can't say I see much of a difference between the church telling me I'll go to hell if I don't give them money and the government telling me I'll go to prison if I don't give them money.  I mean, at least the government was elected...

[Cathal]

That bitch is fucking nuts. That's all, bye bye 

Funny thing is a lot of Republicans support the 70% marginal tax rate on millionaires. She's not as nuts as you think.

[Tenshot13]

^Church doesn't say you go to hell if you don't tithe

[Spider-Dan]

Conservative Democrats left with Lieberman but the days of Nancy, Chuck and Biden are slipping away too.

Nancy doesn't belong in that sentence, which will become clear soon.  And when Chuck and Joe are sent off, they can go to the same wasteland that Jeb!, Jon Huntsman, and the moderate right have been exiled to.

There are a couple of things that Trump's run and Howard Schultz's (attempt at a) run have shown.  Given Trump's promises to protect SS/Medicare and enact protectionist trade, as well as the terrible reception of his tax cuts (and the GOP's refusal to run on them), it's clear that even the conservative base has rejected (or simply doesn't care about) the free market trickle-down nonsense.  And given that almost literally no one is interested in Schultz's socially liberal/economically conservative platform, that tells me that Americans across the political spectrum are sick of being looted by the rich.

The real terrifying thing, for me, is if the next Trump squares this circle and figures out that there is room for a winning coalition that combines economic populism (REAL economic populism, not Trump's indifferent lies) with bigotry and xenophobia; a 21st century William Jennings Bryan, if you will.  I don't think the American left is prepared to deal with that kind of opponent.

[pondwater]

Funny thing is a lot of Republicans support the 70% marginal tax rate on millionaires. She's not as nuts as you think.

It has nothing to do with tax rates, it's the totality of her statements. That bitch is fucking nuts. Probably twice as nuts as I think.

[Tenshot13]

It has nothing to do with tax rates, it's the totality of her statements. That bitch is fucking nuts. Probably twice as nuts as I think.

She does have those big, crazy eyes...

[Fau Teixeira]

It has nothing to do with tax rates, it's the totality of her statements. That bitch is fucking nuts. Probably twice as nuts as I think.

which statements are nuts exactly?

[pondwater]

which statements are nuts exactly?

The majority of them.

[Sunstroke]

Not even close. He didn't take from anyone

So, the fish and loaves that Jesus fed the masses with, early on in the new testament? Did he spend a lot of time with a line in the water and buns in the oven?

The coolest thing about God is free will. He gives us guidelines to live by and we choose whether we want to do that.

Actually, a number of ancient freelance writers gave us the guidelines, but they did claim to be speaking for God, so if you're big on faith and short on history, that may as well be the same thing... 

[Fau Teixeira]

The majority of them.

what about this was nuts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AljakpXAh7c

[Cathal]

The majority of them.

Examples. Please.

I mean, she seems to just "get it", and see how easily corrupt our government can be and is. 5 minute video (scroll down a bit). I know the video is on huff post but it's just a video on a hearing, no fake news there. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-campaign-finance_us_5c5d246be4b03afe8d6637ff?utm_source=reddit.com

[CF DolFan]

Isn't tithing mandated?

I can't say I see much of a difference between the church telling me I'll go to hell if I don't give them money and the government telling me I'll go to prison if I don't give them money.  I mean, at least the government was elected...

Tithing is not mandated and even if it was ... it is still your personal choice of whether you want to participate. A law forcing me to do something takes my free will away as did the Obama punishment for not having insurance.

God gives us a standard to live by that we will benefit from if followed. Tithing or giving your first 10% is one of the biggest steps to trusting God and putting Him first in your life. that's between an individual and God. Any Church that tries to blackmail people into tithing is adding requirements to the free gift of Christ.

[Spider-Dan]

Tithing is not mandated and even if it was ... it is still your personal choice of whether you want to participate.

So if it's not mandated, then fine... but if it is, the existence of free will does not change the consequences.  I mean, you also have free will when it comes to paying your taxes. Speaking of which:

A law forcing me to do something takes my free will away as did the Obama punishment for not having insurance.

No, a tax break for having health insurance does not "take away your free will."

I have to pay Medicare payroll taxes even if I have no intention of ever using it. This is not eliminating my free will, nor is it slavery.  It's a larger tax bill.