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« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2020, 12:11:49 am »

What the fuck was that? That made absolutely no sense. We are clearly loaded at CB right now and had other positions of need that we could've filled with that pick.

That was a legitimately awful pick. Doesn't ruin the draft for me but definitely leaves it on a sour note for the evening. Seriously, what the fuck was that?

Pretty much exactly what I was going to say.  I was happy with the first 2 picks.  They needed to replace Jones at Safety and McKinney was there at 26 so I was all happy because McKinne is essentially Minkah 2.0.  So I was pissed because instead of taking him they traded back.  Luckily McKinney was still there at 30.  Yes!  And what happens, they take a CB after they already have the 2 most expensive CBs in the NFL.  WTF!!  All the holes on this team.  Even if for some reason they don't like McKinney which clearly they don't, there are so many other places that need talent on this team.  A true WTF pick.  
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« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2020, 12:23:30 am »

Was this kid even mocked to go in the first 2 rounds?

Whatever, we still might get McKinney or Jones tomorrow when we pick 5th, but it looks like we actually don't like McKinney for some reason. So, hopefully we just go Tackle and put that to rest. Give the line a whole year to gel together before Tua takes over in 2021.
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« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2020, 12:35:39 am »

Was this kid even mocked to go in the first 2 rounds?

Whatever, we still might get McKinney or Jones tomorrow when we pick 5th, but it looks like we actually don't like McKinney for some reason. So, hopefully we just go Tackle and put that to rest. Give the line a whole year to gel together before Tua takes over in 2021.

Most had him a 2nd to 3rd rounder.  I just don't get it.  I know that McKinney didn't exactly blow everyone away at the combine, but I thought he was the best Safety in the draft.  I really wanted Ruiz and the Saints got him a couple picks before Miami.  Even though the Fins have a Center (at least for this year), Ruiz was the best interior lineman in the draft and was adaptable and quick enough to easily transition to Guard.  But at least the Saints are my 2nd fave team  LOL    I still can't for the life of me figure out  the Auburn CB with the 30th pick though.  I just don't get it at all. 
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« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2020, 01:23:30 am »

The way things are playing out, McKinney will still be there at 30, or Jones or Cleveland if they want to double down on OL picks.

Diggs would be a juicy prospect too, but we are already loaded at CB.

Haha, right gut instinct about the position, wrong player!  Grin Grin Grin

I am not so upset about the pick, according to CBS he was projected as 38th best player in the draft & next best CB on the list available (after Diggs) so it's not a huge reach. The following pick went CB too so perhaps the timing was just right...

I suppose the question is (even without Brady in the division) can you ever have too many cover corners? Also, it has to bring up the prospect that Xavier Howard's time in a Dolphins jersey may be coming to an end sooner than some think... maybe not in 2020, but after that?

As it turns out, all of McKinney, Jones & Cleveland are still on the board at the end of day 1, there's a decent chance at least one of them could be there at the Fins first pick at 39 (7 picks in tomorrow).

That said, will Cam Akers (ranked at 49) last until the Dolphins next pick at 56?
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« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2020, 07:51:53 am »

I'm very excited we took Tua, dynasty starts now!

I'm good with Jackson, the big 4 OT were gone, and there were talks he would be a top 10 pick next year.  He might struggle this season, but next season he should be ready to be a franchise tackle.  He's only 20 years old and has plenty of time to get stronger and learn the speed of the pros.  He's a high character guy, donated bone marrow to his sister which effected his play last season.

Noah Igbinoghene has a grade at A+ by CBS and as low as a D by other sites.  Some say he's the 3rd best CB, others say he's a reach.  I like that he's a press coverage guy, and I trust Grier and Flores to pick the right players for our system. 
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« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2020, 08:15:10 am »

Yes, this was a headscratcher, thought for sure when they went back to 30th (which I thought was good, got an extra pick in the 4th) rthey gonna get McKinney

Not sure why, but maybe they get him in the 2nd? Dunno.  CBS listed Igbinoghene strengths/weaknesses below.  I did go back and watch his game vs LSU and from what I saw, he was pretty good considering the talent he was going against.  He does mirror the WR very well.

 Strengths 

    Comes from a track background
    Extremely physical throughout route
    Solid mirroring skills, rarely out of position

Weaknesses

    Relatively new to the position; only played CB last two seasons
    Can get handsy when he doesn't locate ball early
    Instincts aren't there yet

One thing also he does is returns Kicks, so maybe that's another reason to snag him? We'll see
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« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2020, 09:26:20 am »


Well, the first two picks went according to plan...They stood pat at #5 and took Tua, and I said one of the top-5 OTs would be available at #18, and Austin Jackson was my #5 OT. The Igbinoghene pick was a little surprising, as there were at least 3-4 corners available on my list ahead of him, and I thought they'd either go with a safety like McKinney, a DL like Davidson or Blacklock, or even a second OT in Ezra Cleveland instead.

Miami has 3 picks tonight...I'd drop a buck and say that Miami will get the DL and S before round 3 is done.


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« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2020, 10:21:57 am »

While the 3rd pick was shocking at first, it shouldn't take away from the player. Almost everyone has very positive things to say about him and I'm sure the staff did a lot of research to pick him. One hing to look at is Howard's injury history and salary. If he misses another 8 games or so this year due to injury, maybe Noah is his much cheaper replacement. The way his contract works, he can basically be cut after 2022. Team might be thinking ahead.

I'm still not in favor of the move but the kid looks to be a quality player, not like we drafted a punter. Of course, this probably rules out McKinney even if he is available. If we do take him, it's literally the league's best secondary if Howard is healthy. We can have Stephen Hawking at Defensive End and still the QB will have a rough day.
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« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2020, 11:41:20 am »

He's not taking Howard's spot. I read he's going to be the nickel back. Most teams are playing 3-4 wide so he should be on the field most plays.
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« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2020, 11:55:03 am »

Don't know if you guys remember former GM Randy Mueller (I like him) but he had this to say.


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Tua gives @MiamiDolphins hope at most important position- I like the pick. But what should make fins fans happy is the other additions they have made, in free agency and @NFLDraft . GM Grier and HC Flores have done great job rebuilding this team. They WON day 1 imo.
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« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2020, 12:32:57 pm »

We can have Stephen Hawking at Defensive End and still the QB will have a rough day.

Digging up that wheelchair is gonna be a bitch of a job... pretty impressive if our secondary buys us that amount of time!  Wink Tongue
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« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2020, 12:35:29 pm »

Let's gooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Love this picture - only way it could be more perfect would be with a white throwback uniform.

Hell, I would settle for an Aqua throwback uniform...  Wink Tongue
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« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2020, 12:43:53 pm »

Don't know if you guys remember former GM Randy Mueller (I like him) but he had this to say.

Oh I do, I still remember the AJ Feeley trade and was not happy about it.
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« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2020, 12:45:01 pm »

Love this picture - only way it could be more perfect would be with a white throwback uniform.

Hell, I would settle for an Aqua throwback uniform...  Wink Tongue

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« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2020, 12:47:08 pm »

Everyone jump on the TUA TRAIN CHOO CHOO!

Most efficient QB in college football history.  Has the best QBR in college football history.  Has a quicker release than Aaron Rodgers, who has a quicker release than Dan Marino.  LEEEESSSSSSGOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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