There isn't a both sides......

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/15/us/texas-schools-books-holocaust-state-law/index.html

There isn't a both sides on the holocaust.

Nor slavery

Nor genocide of native Americans

Nor segregation

[Sunstroke]

100% disgusting. Perhaps nobody told them that the "opposing opinion" to the holocaust was called "Nazism."

[Fau Teixeira]

Twitter won't turn on their anti-nazi filtering because it's flagging GOP tweets.

https://www.businessinsider.com/twitter-algorithm-crackdown-white-supremacy-gop-politicians-report-2019-4

A Twitter employee told Motherboard that at a recent company-wide meeting, an employee asked why Twitter — which has successfully used a sophisticated algorithm to identify and almost entirely eliminate ISIS-linked content — couldn't do the same for white-supremacist tweets.

According to the employee, another employee that works on artificial-intelligence (AI) issues said that such a sweeping and wide-ranging algorithm could result in some innocent accounts being flagged by accident, which may not be an acceptable trade-off.

In a separate conversation, Motherboard reported, the AI-focused employee said one concern with a white-supremacist algorithm was that it would inadvertently flag the accounts of some Republican politicians, potentially causing a backlash.

I feel like it's probably working properly.

[Spider-Dan]

There isn't a both sides on the holocaust.

Nor slavery

Nor genocide of native Americans

Nor segregation

Most American conservatives will only agree to the first one, because the Holocaust was perpetrated by Germany and not the US.

There definitely are "two sides" to the latter three examples.  After all, Africans were better off under American slavery than they would have been back in Africa, right?  Furthermore, even if slavery was "evil," many slavers like Robert E. Lee were Good And Noble Patriots who only wanted to Protect Their Culture And Way Of Life.  And there are many more arguments of similar absurdity where those come from.

[Dolphster]

Most American conservatives will only agree to the first one, because the Holocaust was perpetrated by Germany and not the US.

There definitely are "two sides" to the latter three examples.  After all, Africans were better off under American slavery than they would have been back in Africa, right?  Furthermore, even if slavery was "evil," many slavers like Robert E. Lee were Good And Noble Patriots who only wanted to Protect Their Culture And Way Of Life.  And there are many more arguments of similar absurdity where those come from.

Dan, I think you often equate "Most American conservatives" with the lunatic fringe of the conservatives.  I know that you are very passionate about your political and social ideals, but I think that your strong feelings can lead you into hyperbole sometimes.  I assume that you probably have some relatives, friends and/or acquaintances that are conservatives.  Think about those people that you know.  Do you really think that "most" of them think that "Africans were better off under American slavery than they would have been back in Africa", etc.?  If you think that "most" of the conservatives that you know feel that way, then you need to find some different conservative friends the only conservatives that feel the way you describe "most" conservatives as feeling would be KKK members. Those are the only types of people who would think the kind of thoughts that you assigned to "most" conservatives. 

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Most American conservatives will only agree to the first one, because the Holocaust was perpetrated by Germany and not the US.

There definitely are "two sides" to the latter three examples.  After all, Africans were better off under American slavery than they would have been back in Africa, right?  Furthermore, even if slavery was "evil," many slavers like Robert E. Lee were Good And Noble Patriots who only wanted to Protect Their Culture And Way Of Life.  And there are many more arguments of similar absurdity where those come from.

If we are going to present two sides to slavery than we should present two sides to the moral justification for setting off homemade bombs at the finish line of the Boston Marathon.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Dan, I think you often equate "Most American conservatives" with the lunatic fringe of the conservatives.  I know that you are very passionate about your political and social ideals, but I think that your strong feelings can lead you into hyperbole sometimes.  I assume that you probably have some relatives, friends and/or acquaintances that are conservatives.  Think about those people that you know.  Do you really think that "most" of them think that "Africans were better off under American slavery than they would have been back in Africa", etc.?  If you think that "most" of the conservatives that you know feel that way, then you need to find some different conservative friends the only conservatives that feel the way you describe "most" conservatives as feeling would be KKK members. Those are the only types of people who would think the kind of thoughts that you assigned to "most" conservatives. 

I have friends that are traditional conservatives.  They voted for every Republican candidate since Nixon other than Trump. 

However, the majority of the GOP is the lunatic fringe.  Every single republican who voted for Texas HB 3979, is part of the lunatic fringe.  Every republican who voted against the January 6 commission is part of the lunatic fringe.  Every republican backed the nonsense audits and lawsuits in an attempt to undermine the election is the lunatic fringe. 

[pondwater]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/15/us/texas-schools-books-holocaust-state-law/index.html

There isn't a both sides on the holocaust.

Nor slavery

Nor genocide of native Americans

Nor segregation

None of that stuff exists anymore so it's a moot point and doesn't matter either way. However, I'll entertain the silliness for a second. What exactly do you mean by "sides"?

Edit: To clarify none of that stuff exists in the United States

[ArtieChokePhin]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/15/us/texas-schools-books-holocaust-state-law/index.html

There isn't a both sides on the holocaust.

Nor slavery

Nor genocide of native Americans

Nor segregation

Actually there is.  There were supporters of the Holocaust, supporters of slavery, supporters of Native American genocide and supporters of segretation.   And anyone who supports any of that is a pathetic excuse for a human being.  But sadly, those people existed and a few still do.

[Spider-Dan]

Dan, I think you often equate "Most American conservatives" with the lunatic fringe of the conservatives.

You're right; "most" is unfair.  For example, I don't believe that most conservatives oppose teaching children that the Confederacy was formed to protect the evil of slavery.

But the ones who do are usually the loudest ones, who also end up setting the policy for the Republican Party.

[Dolphster]

You're right; "most" is unfair.  For example, I don't believe that most conservatives oppose teaching children that the Confederacy was formed to protect the evil of slavery.

But the ones who do are usually the loudest ones, who also end up setting the policy for the Republican Party.

I agree with you about the loudest ones.  I think that is probably true of most subsets of society.  The loudest people get the most attention and they also often bully their way into positions of at least some amount of influence. 

[ArtieChokePhin]

You're right; "most" is unfair.  For example, I don't believe that most conservatives oppose teaching children that the Confederacy was formed to protect the evil of slavery.

But the ones who do are usually the loudest ones, who also end up setting the policy for the Republican Party.

The Confederacy wasn't formed to protect slavery.   The Confederacy was formed to secede from the union so they could charge more for the raw materials they were producing for the factories up north.

[Dolphster]

The Confederacy wasn't formed to protect slavery.   The Confederacy was formed to secede from the union so they could charge more for the raw materials they were producing for the factories up north.

This is not going to go well. 

[Fau Teixeira]

The Confederacy wasn't formed to protect slavery.   The Confederacy was formed to secede from the union so they could charge more for the raw materials they were producing for the factories up north.

I wonder how they were going to acquire these "raw materials" they were then going to sell for a greater amount of money.  I guess they had some early robot designs cooking that were somehow outlawed in the north.

[pondwater]

I wonder how they were going to acquire these "raw materials" they were then going to sell for a greater amount of money.  I guess they had some early robot designs cooking that were somehow outlawed in the north.

It's not as black and white as you make it out to be, it's a multifaceted issue. Your post kind of shows that it wasn't strictly about slavery. Hypothetically, if the Confederacy did have technology or robots to do the work they would have abandoned slavery for something more efficient and profitable. Just like in many countries around the world as we speak, slavery was a means to an end. Profit plain and simple. Like most wars, the Civil War was primarily about money.