How is your life better since Biden took office?

[CF DolFan]

Because Trump is not President is not an answer. It's not a loaded question. The whole point of the question is to find out why 37% of you are still supporting Biden while the rest of us are shaking our heads in amazement at just how bad he and in his own words ...  "someone who was of color and/or a different gender" have been since taking office. It's baffling to me just like it's baffling to you how I could support an arrogant prick like Trump.

[Dave Gray]

I got $80,000 cleared off my family books is the most direct reason.

But, I don't have a constant, daily harassment from my own leadership, which is nice.


I get that you don't like Biden or liberals or whatever.  But nothing about Biden is a disaster.  He's president while the reality of a lot of things are disastrous, but he's not the cause of that, and if you think he is, that's a you problem.  Gas prices are high, but only a dumbass would blame the president for that.  It's a global problem, relating to supply and demand issues but a bunch of other things, too.  Gas is high everywhere Biden isn't president, too.  Biden's policy isn't making gas high.

In the middle of Trump's presidency, there was a supply war between Russia and (some middle eastern country I can't remember).  They were over-producing oil to flood the market and drive the other side out....it was a gamble and a game of chicken.  Amidst that, COVID hit and the supply for gas fell rapidly.  Low demand + high supply = low prices.  That's why gas was so low.  You started seeing memes from conservative think-groups about "let's see where gas is in 1 year" after Trump lost because they knew what had happened and that it was going to correct.  But they also knew that people were too dumb to actually understand the issue.  Now you see a coordinated effort to put little pointing Biden stickers at gas pumps because they are manipulating stupid people.  Gas would have gone up with Trump just the same.  And guess what, it's gonna get worse.  Now with sanctions against Russia, we'll take a larger financial hit.  Again,....not Biden....not democrats.  ...not liberals.  It's the cost of democracy.

Inflation -- there are things you can do to lessen some of the effects, and there are supply chain things that can by affected by leadership, but by and large, this is the nature of where we are after a pandemic shut things down for 2 years and we had to spend to float people's livelihood.  Also, fewer workers, reduced production -- all that raises prices.  Time to pay the piper.  That's inflation.  It would be the same under Trump.  And we'll crawl out of this hole over the next several years, regardless of who is in power.


I was fair to Trump.  I didn't blame him for every little bullshit blip in the economy.  People on my side would blame him for everything....would blame Bush, etc.  I'm not like that.  I understand that the economy and the swings associated with it are sometimes decades in the making.  One man doesn't tank the economy in a year.  That's just dumb.

[CF DolFan]

A lot of what you said sounds like when Obama said manufacturing jobs are just not going to come back and what's Donald going to do wave a magic wand. Then the Trump Administration cut 2.7 major regulations for every one added, greatly reducing regulatory cost and risk. Trump’s pro-growth policies appear to be all the magic the manufacturing sector needed.

We were energy independent 2 years ago. Today we rely on a crazy Russian that is supposedly in cahoots with our past president. LOL ... it just doesn't add up.

[Dave Gray]

We were energy independent 2 years ago.

Based on what facts?

[Dave Gray]

Also, it's not that we're dependent on Russian oil....it's that the world is.  We don't get much of our oil from there.   But in Germany, for example, where they use more of it, Germany will maintain their level of demand with reduced supply.  Their dependence on the Middle East might go up which would increase demand and increases our prices some.  Germany will pay a bigger price than we will but we'll pay some price, because it's a world economy.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

A lot of what you said sounds like when Obama said manufacturing jobs are just not going to come back and what's Donald going to do wave a magic wand. Then the Trump Administration cut 2.7 major regulations for every one added, greatly reducing regulatory cost and risk. Trump’s pro-growth policies appear to be all the magic the manufacturing sector needed.

We were energy independent 2 years ago. Today we rely on a crazy Russian that is supposedly in cahoots with our past president. LOL ... it just doesn't add up.

Fact:  The Trump administration was the first administration since Hoover to have a net loss of jobs. 

[ArtieChokePhin]

Based on what facts?

Based on the fact that gas was under $2 a gallon and there were several oil pipelines and tons of fracking projects going on. 

[Dave Gray]

Based on the fact that gas was under $2 a gallon and there were several oil pipelines and tons of fracking projects going on. 

We were not energy independent.  I explained to you why gas was low.  It has nothing to do with those pipelines.  Those things weren't even going to be finished for another five years.  And we weren't energy independent.

Fracking is for natural gas, not for oil.


So, sure -- make the argument that we should be piping oil from Alaska.  But that is not related in any way to our costs of fuel then under Trump or today either.

[dolphins4life]

I can't think of a single way my life has gotten better since Biden took office

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Based on the fact that gas was under $2 a gallon and there were several oil pipelines and tons of fracking projects going on. 

The avg price of gas in 2020 was $2.17. In 2016 it was $2.14.  Trump inherited low gas prices from Obama.  Gas prices actually went down under Obama, after going up under Bush.

[Spider-Dan]

CF, I gotta give it to you... it takes some serious balls for you to post this thread.

Even if everything you accuse liberals of is true - even if we were happy with Biden solely because he's not Trump - we would only be copying what you've already admitted conservatives were doing with Trump:

I don't think you realize how much conservatives felt attacked during the previous 8 years but to have an "in your face" rebuttal to it is appealing for many.

And on your own personal objections to Obama's presidency:

Not liberal governance at all. It was identity political attacks. He made white people, police, military, and the Christian church villains by his words and inaction.

Every accusation is a confession.  You think that because you see the world through a lens of cultural grievance politics, those on the left must do the same.  But unlike conservatives, we actually have a sense of morality.  We have political goals and priorities that extend beyond whatever will piss off the opposition.

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However, even though you have absolutely no standing whatsoever to criticize anyone on the left that supports Biden for the same petty grievances that motivated you to support Trump, I'll take a shot at answering your question.  How is my life better since Biden took office?

Well, I've had continuous employment for the last 15 years, so I'm not one of the record-setting 6.6 million jobs created under Biden.  And since I wasn't one of the 3 million jobs lost under Trump, I also did not benefit from an extra $6600 in increased unemployment benefits.

I'm not a parent, so I didn't receive the extra $250/month per child from the Child Tax Credit in the American Rescue Plan.

I'm not a soldier, so I wasn't called home from a useless and wasteful 20-year war in Afghanistan.

I'm not an immigrant, so I wasn't able to legally apply for asylum without worrying about having my child stolen, nor did I have my child returned to me after the Trump Administration stole them.

I was one of the first Americans to get access to a vaccine (back in December 2020), so I wasn't one of the millions that the Biden Administration delivered vaccines to.

But on the bright side, at least there has been a 100% reduction in the number of attempts to overthrow our federal government and assassinate our members of Congress since Biden took office!

[pondwater]

I got $80,000 cleared off my family books is the most direct reason.

So you're saying that you're bought and paid for?

But, I don't have a constant, daily harassment from my own leadership, which is nice.

Who harassed you daily? Your leadership at your place of employment?

[Spider-Dan]

So you're saying that you're bought and paid for?

Truly, is there anything more dastardly than a politician who bribes his constituents by... actually doing things to help them?
A genuine and honest politician would show you more respect by doing absolutely nothing for you.  (Unless you're rich... then he would bribe you with tax cuts, which is different and totally fine.)

Who harassed you daily? Your leadership at your place of employment?

Well, according to CF, Obama "made white people, police, military, and the Christian church villains by his words and inaction."
So by the same standard, Trump continually harassed everyone outside of "white people, police, military, and the Christian church."

[pondwater]

Truly, is there anything more dastardly than a politician who bribes his constituents by... actually doing things to help them?
A genuine and honest politician would show you more respect by doing absolutely nothing for you.  (Unless you're rich... then he would bribe you with tax cuts, which is different and totally fine.)
Well, according to CF, Obama "made white people, police, military, and the Christian church villains by his words and inaction."
So by the same standard, Trump continually harassed everyone outside of "white people, police, military, and the Christian church."

Why are you answering for Dave? Who TF are you? The internet forum Dr. save-a-ho to the rescue, LMFAO..... You people get more wacky on a daily basis?

[dolphins4life]

I will have to compare my tax returns from this year and last year to 2020 before I decide.

With everything Spider and Dave are saying, somebody has to pay for all that.  I wonder if it is me.