Indiana mall shooting thwarted by armed civilian

[ArtieChokePhin]

Three people are dead after an Indiana mall shooting but it could've been a lot worse had there not been a good guy who was also carrying a gun.

https://www.aol.com/2-killed-shooting-indiana-mall-001121029-003802848.html

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Only in America is three dead innocent victims seen as a success story.  It is not a “good news story” that only three were killed. It is three too many. 

The solution is not more guns for more shootouts.  It is getting guns out of the hands of psychopaths.

[ArtieChokePhin]

Only in America is three dead innocent victims seen as a success story.  It is not a “good news story” that only three were killed. It is three too many. 

The solution is not more guns for more shootouts.  It is getting guns out of the hands of psychopaths.

God will judge psychopaths.   Good guys with guns will arrange the meeting

[CF DolFan]

There is no scenario where the anti-gun people are going to support a gun person.  In the same way some people use their creative side and others use their analytical side to make decisions ... their brain just isn't wired that way.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

No you have that wrong.  Completely wrong. The correct statement is ....There isn't a scenario where the gun control advocates find three innocent civilians murdered a positive outcome.   

[ArtieChokePhin]

No you have that wrong.  Completely wrong. The correct statement is ....There isn't a scenario where the gun control advocates find three innocent civilians murdered a positive outcome.   

When it could've been thirty save for an armed good guy who had the sense to use his gun.

[Fau Teixeira]

Or it

When it could've been thirty save for an armed good guy who had the sense to use his gun.

When it could've been zero save for anyone getting guns whenever they want.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

When it could've been thirty save for an armed good guy who had the sense to use his gun.

That is not solving the problem.  Not for the 3 families who lost a loved one.  Not having the original shooter being armed is solving the problem.  

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Less than 5% of shooter are stopped by a  "good guy with a gun".  And if you don't include private security and off duty cops, it drops to about 2%.  OTOH 100% of all shooting began with a bad guy with a gun.  We don't need more good guys with a gun.  We need less bad guys with a gun.

[dolphins4life]

Less than 5% of shooter are stopped by a  "good guy with a gun".  And if you don't include private security and off duty cops, it drops to about 2%.  OTOH 100% of all shooting began with a bad guy with a gun.  We don't need more good guys with a gun.  We need less bad guys with a gun.

This guy had no adult criminal record.  There is no way to prevent him from getting a gun that wouldn't have prevented good guys from getting guns, too.

[Spider-Dan]

Japan has a bit more than 1/3rd the population of the US.
You may have heard about the assassination of their former Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe, earlier this month.  He was killed with a homemade gun.
That was the first gun death in Japan this year.
So Japan has already matched their total number of gun deaths for all of 2021: one.

Meanwhile, we have people in this thread cheering only three dead victims in a single incident! as a triumphant victory for the gun advocates.

More guns = more deaths.
It is literally that simple.

[CF DolFan]

Japan has a bit more than 1/3rd the population of the US.
You may have heard about the assassination of their former Prime Minister, Shinzo Abe, earlier this month.  He was killed with a homemade gun.
That was the first gun death in Japan this year.
So Japan has already matched their total number of gun deaths for all of 2021: one.

Meanwhile, we have people in this thread cheering only three dead victims in a single incident! as a triumphant victory for the gun advocates.

More guns = more deaths.
It is literally that simple.

The issue is gun people don't see it as a gun issue but a mental issue of a broken society. You can't have our kind of freedoms and expect anything less. Take away guns and this countries criminals will always have guns. The best you can hope for is to have a gun to protect yourself until the police, that you do not trust anyway, show up. To think banning guns will remve them from everywhere is a fantasy. Banning illegal drugs and alchohol didn't work at all but guns will? Sounds like an innocent child came up with that.

And yes, this guy is a freaking 22 year old hero!

[Fau Teixeira]

To think banning guns will remve them from everywhere is a fantasy. Banning illegal drugs and alchohol didn't work at all but guns will? Sounds like an innocent child came up with that.

That's the thing, you don't have to imagine or wonder or even pretend to not know the answer. Look at any other country that has curtailed gun ownership and the rate of gun deaths has decreased significantly.  There is worldwide pudding and there is worldwide proof and in this case the proof is in the pudding

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

This guy had no adult criminal record.  There is no way to prevent him from getting a gun that wouldn't have prevented good guys from getting guns, too.

But he did have a history of violence as a juvenile.  If you have a history of violence you shouldn’t have a gun.  Just because the violence occurred as a youth doesn’t matter.

The fact is if both Dicken and Sapirman were unarmed the situation would have ended much better than both of them armed.  Every other country in the world has solved this problem.

[CF DolFan]

That's the thing, you don't have to imagine or wonder or even pretend to not know the answer. Look at any other country that has curtailed gun ownership and the rate of gun deaths has decreased significantly.  There is worldwide pudding and there is worldwide proof and in this case the proof is in the pudding

That is such boloney. What have we banned in the US that can't be easily purchased if you want it? If there is a market then there will always be people supplying them here.