Trump Is Now Suggesting Ron DeSantis Is a Pedophile

[DenverFinFan]

Easily.  The only way it's a close call is if Trump is literally incarcerated.

The people who think today Trump won't be the nominee are, to the man, all people who thought he wouldn't be in 2016.  And for all the same incredibly naive reasons.

I’m with you, as it is now I think he wins.

I think it will be tougher than in 2016 and a lot can happen but yeah he has a highly
motivated cultus and I don’t think anyone else can break his spell.

Scary thing is he can win the general as well, outright. He will of course try and cheat again no matter the outcome.

I’m hoping he dies on the toilet.

[CF DolFan]

Trump will only be the nominee if people like DeSantis and Nikki Haley cancel each other out. Hopefully they recognize who can beat Trump and bows out early enough to help them beat Trump.  I don't know many people who would still vote for Trump except hard core right wingers and that's a minority. I'm speaking about the Presidential Election too. Most people are tired of his schtick with much better alternatives out there and are ready to see him go away.

[Sunstroke]

I hope the far-far right somehow manages to put Trump on the ticket...just because I don't believe he is electable any more.

[dolphins4life]

Trump will only be the nominee if people like DeSantis and Nikki Haley cancel each other out. Hopefully they recognize who can beat Trump and bows out early enough to help them beat Trump.  I don't know many people who would still vote for Trump except hard core right wingers and that's a minority. I'm speaking about the Presidential Election too. Most people are tired of his schtick with much better alternatives out there and are ready to see him go away.

Can Desantis give us what Trump gave us?


1) No wars
2) Middle East Peace
3) Strong American Economy
4) No inflation
5) Growing 401ks
6) Low Gas Prices
7) A secure oil Reserve
Strong dollar?

I still don't get why liberals don't like this things. 

[dolphins4life]

I don't think there would be a repeat of 2016. 

I understand Trump's frustration because when you do a great job, and people don't recognize you for it, it is annoying, but he needs to get out of the picture.

[Spider-Dan]

Trump will only be the nominee if people like DeSantis and Nikki Haley cancel each other out. Hopefully they recognize who can beat Trump and bows out early enough to help them beat Trump.  I don't know many people who would still vote for Trump except hard core right wingers and that's a minority. I'm speaking about the Presidential Election too. Most people are tired of his schtick with much better alternatives out there and are ready to see him go away.

DeSantis is Scott Walker 2.0: he's a sleazy little gremlin who has made his bones at the state level by owning Florida Dems.  But he has nothing to offer at the national stage.

He is Trump, minus the things (fame, "wealth," TV show, readiness to insult his opponents in childish terms) that made Trump popular.  Trump at least made (flimsy, transparently dishonest) overtures towards being in favor of things that are not pure, undistilled Republican Party orthodoxy: he claimed he was in favor of expanding Medicare, he said it would be a terrible mistake to cut Medicare or Social Security, etc.  Ron DeSantis has the exact same economic platform as Mitt Romney, Mitch McConnell. or Paul Ryan.  He just has some culture war nonsense thrown in for seasoning.

[Spider-Dan]

After the State of the Union address, Trump had some unusually generous praise for President Biden and his wife, the "lovely" Jill Biden.

I heard an interesting theory behind this praise as veiled threat: if Trump loses to DeSantis in the primary, then maybe he'll endorse Biden in the general.  Obviously, Trump's preference is to win the presidency, but if he loses to DeSantis in the primary, then it should be equally obvious that Trump would prefer DeSantis to lose to the same guy that beat him.

[CF DolFan]

DeSantis is Scott Walker 2.0: he's a sleazy little gremlin who has made his bones at the state level by owning Florida Dems.  But he has nothing to offer at the national stage.

He is Trump, minus the things (fame, "wealth," TV show, readiness to insult his opponents in childish terms) that made Trump popular.  Trump at least made (flimsy, transparently dishonest) overtures towards being in favor of things that are not pure, undistilled Republican Party orthodoxy: he claimed he was in favor of expanding Medicare, he said it would be a terrible mistake to cut Medicare or Social Security, etc.  Ron DeSantis has the exact same economic platform as Mitt Romney, Mitch McConnell. or Paul Ryan.  He just has some culture war nonsense thrown in for seasoning.

I have to admit it is always interesting to hear you guys describe DeSantis. It's like a wish list or somethig because it couldn't furthur from the truth. DeSantis is much better at owning the Dems and media. He does it with intelligence and doesn't use the namecalling and threats as a catch all. He's Donald Trump if you could send Donald to basic training and start all over to get the guy you really wanted. The only place they are similar is with policies they support.

After the State of the Union address, Trump had some unusually generous praise for President Biden and his wife, the "lovely" Jill Biden.

I heard an interesting theory behind this praise as veiled threat: if Trump loses to DeSantis in the primary, then maybe he'll endorse Biden in the general.  Obviously, Trump's preference is to win the presidency, but if he loses to DeSantis in the primary, then it should be equally obvious that Trump would prefer DeSantis to lose to the same guy that beat him.

Trump is hard to figure out. While most people realize he should get behind whoever the nominee would be on the GOP so they would help him if ever needed (like a pardon) his ego would cause him to destroy the GOP as revenge. It would not surprise me to see him support his all of a sudden long time buddy Sleepy Joe. That could be in the form of running as indepedent or outright tossing his support to Joe.

[CF DolFan]

Can Desantis give us what Trump gave us?


1) No wars
2) Middle East Peace
3) Strong American Economy
4) No inflation
5) Growing 401ks
6) Low Gas Prices
7) A secure oil Reserve
Strong dollar?

I still don't get why liberals don't like this things. 

It's not that simple as much a matter of perspective. Liberals also want those same things but see different ways of achieving them or different faults in why we do not have them.

For instance ...  they want lower gas prices but don't see higher gas problems as a Biden or party issue. Conservatives on the other hand see it directly as the policies of the adminsistration that has stripped us of our oil production which has a direct effect on everything we purchase. Depending on how you see the issue is how you will likely vote.

[Dave Gray]

It's not that simple as much a matter of perspective. Liberals also want those same things but see different ways of achieving them or different faults in why we do not have them.

For instance ...  they want lower gas prices but don't see higher gas problems as a Biden or party issue. Conservatives on the other hand see it directly as the policies of the adminsistration that has stripped us of our oil production which has a direct effect on everything we purchase. Depending on how you see the issue is how you will likely vote.

This is correct.  There are also further nuances that might apply, like the cost of making gas cheaper is bad in the long term for some other purpose (environment, using strategic reserves needed for plastics or later use).  Or that gas is so much cheaper in America than other parts of the world.  But all that has a cost, too.

Gas is a weird commodity, because it's connected to so many other things.  We think of it as specifically filling up our tanks, but it's more than that.  Really cheap gas can signal issues with the general economy.

[Dave Gray]

Trump is hard to figure out. While most people realize he should get behind whoever the nominee would be on the GOP so they would help him if ever needed (like a pardon) his ego would cause him to destroy the GOP as revenge.

I've been banking on the first part.  Trump shoots from the hip and says crazy shit, but when it comes down to the law, he shuts up and lets his lawyers work.  You don't see him freelancing on the witness stand.  He's very controlled.

Yes, Trump has ego, but the dude also needs to, first-and-foremost, stay out of legal trouble.  If he's dead in the water and going to lose, he's so much better making a backroom deal with whoever the GOP nominee is...not even necessarily for as much of a pardon, but just to be able to appoint the guys in the justice department who will ultimately decide who and how hard to prosecute.

Clearly, a friendly Desantis in office is less of a threat to Trump than a democratic appointed justice department.  They're independent, but there's still human involvement.  Trump's legacy would be hurt (in his own mind) if Desantis went on to be the candidate that he couldn't be, but I don't think it's enough to risk more legal problems.




My sister called me today and put her official prediction on Trump getting the nomination.  I just don't see it.

He seems unelectable, Republicans seem to know that.  Sure, there are people who will vote that way anyway, but you've gotta think that between an electability argument (which isn't even being levied against him yet) plus Wall Street and the GOP money machine backing away, plus a reduction in general media attention.  I just don't think he can stay afloat.

The easy way out here is to blame the system, like he's always done, back away, say he would've won in a landslide if there wasn't so much goo in the swamp, blah, blah, blah.

[CF DolFan]

I've been banking on the first part.  Trump shoots from the hip and says crazy shit, but when it comes down to the law, he shuts up and lets his lawyers work.  You don't see him freelancing on the witness stand.  He's very controlled.

Yes, Trump has ego, but the dude also needs to, first-and-foremost, stay out of legal trouble.  If he's dead in the water and going to lose, he's so much better making a backroom deal with whoever the GOP nominee is...not even necessarily for as much of a pardon, but just to be able to appoint the guys in the justice department who will ultimately decide who and how hard to prosecute.

Clearly, a friendly Desantis in office is less of a threat to Trump than a democratic appointed justice department.  They're independent, but there's still human involvement.  Trump's legacy would be hurt (in his own mind) if Desantis went on to be the candidate that he couldn't be, but I don't think it's enough to risk more legal problems.




My sister called me today and put her official prediction on Trump getting the nomination.  I just don't see it.

He seems unelectable, Republicans seem to know that.  Sure, there are people who will vote that way anyway, but you've gotta think that between an electability argument (which isn't even being levied against him yet) plus Wall Street and the GOP money machine backing away, plus a reduction in general media attention.  I just don't think he can stay afloat.

The easy way out here is to blame the system, like he's always done, back away, say he would've won in a landslide if there wasn't so much goo in the swamp, blah, blah, blah.

People in politics are dumb. Unless they get together to nominate someone else he has enough of the diehards to win. He won't win the elction as he's even lost a much of the support he had but his zealots are crazy enough to get him nominated if the other votes are split between 2,3, or even 4 other people.

[Dave Gray]

There is a house just down the street from me that looks like one of those ones you see on the Internet.  Multiple raised trucks on the lawn in various states of repair.   A momument to the ten commandments out on the front lawn.  And several large political flags flying above the house.

He currently has a "Trump 2024."  A "Don't Tread on Me" yellow one with the snake.  And a "Let's Go Brandon" one.


He previously was flying a Desantis one, but that's now been taken down.  I don't know if it means anything, but I noticed it.

[Fau Teixeira]

I saw a Desanctimonious flag in rural Connecticut last week. That was interesting.

[CF DolFan]

I saw a Desanctimonious flag in rural Connecticut last week. That was interesting.

I've seen t-shirts but I take them as a slap in Trump's face. Kind of like the "Let's go Brandon" towards Biden. I haven't seen anyone wearig them yet but I have seen them.