Bud Light

[pondwater]

^He's talking about getting rid of Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben.

I fail to see where the "you guys" come in.  Those were internal business decisions that weren't coming from liberal backlash.  They just wanted to evolve as companies, something that companies do all the time and having black caricatures probably wasn't the best look.  We didn't do that.

3...2...1... until minorities start crying racist because they're not represented on any products or packaging and only whites are represented. Just more clown world nonsense.

RIP Aunt Jemima, Mrs. Butterworths, Cream of Wheat, Uncle Ben, Eskimo Pie, Land O’Lakes, Atlanta Braves, Cleveland Indians, Washington Redskins, Mutual of Omaha, etc, etc, etc.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

3...2...1... until minorities start crying racist because they're not represented on any products or packaging and only whites are represented. Just more clown world nonsense.

RIP Aunt Jemima, Mrs. Butterworths, Cream of Wheat, Uncle Ben, Eskimo Pie, Land O’Lakes, Atlanta Braves, Cleveland Indians, Washington Redskins, Mutual of Omaha, etc, etc, etc.

You think you are being clever, when in reality you are just proving you are either too stupid to understand the difference between representation and appropriation, too racist to admit you understand the difference between representation and appropriation.   

[pondwater]

You think you are being clever, when in reality you are just proving you are either too stupid to understand the difference between representation and appropriation, too racist to admit you understand the difference between representation and appropriation.  

I fit neither of those descriptions fine sir. However, I would like for you (and only you) to please explain in depth the difference between representation and appropriation.

[Spider-Dan]

However, I would like for you (and only you) to please explain in depth the difference between representation and appropriation.

Notwithstanding my amusement at your desire to impose a condition that you violate all the time when you cheerfully join conversations that don't involve you (which, to be clear, is the primary purpose of a public message board like this one):

If your intent is to discourage other people from chiming in on this discussion, you should probably be sending a PM instead.

[pondwater]

You think you are being clever, when in reality you are just proving you are either too stupid to understand the difference between representation and appropriation, too racist to admit you understand the difference between representation and appropriation.  

I fit neither of those descriptions fine sir. However, I would like for you (and only you) to please explain in depth the difference between representation and appropriation.

[CF DolFan]

You think you are being clever, when in reality you are just proving you are either too stupid to understand the difference between representation and appropriation, too racist to admit you understand the difference between representation and appropriation.   

The literal family of the woman on the syrup bottle did not want her removed but thanks to the great white saviors she is gone! You guys saved many a black foke by taking her off that racist bottle. SMH

[Spider-Dan]

The literal family of the woman on the syrup bottle did not want her removed but thanks to the great white saviors she is gone! You guys saved many a black foke by taking her off that racist bottle. SMH

It would appear that this post is merely the latest in an ongoing series, "We asked them and they said they were fine with it":

Despite the decades-long controversy surrounding the Washington Redskins' name, an overwhelming nine out of 10 Native Americans say they are not offended by it, a Washington Post poll revealed.
Only nine percent of the 504 people surveyed in every state from December to April found the football team's name derogatory, even though the term is defined in the Oxford dictionary as 'dated, or offensive'.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3599611/Nine-10-Native-Americans-not-offended-Washington-Redskins-football-team-new-survey-finds.html#ixzz49ClQQw44

I've never had an issue with it and it appears most Indians do not either. I'm sure it won't stop the politically correct police because they are more informed than those who should be offended.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

The literal family of the woman on the syrup bottle did not want her removed but thanks to the great white saviors she is gone! You guys saved many a black foke by taking her off that racist bottle. SMH

First thoughts upon reading this.....

Really, I just thought she was a caricature, I didn't realize she was an actual person.  I wonder if the reason her family is bothered by this that her heirs must be getting hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions per year in royalties for using her image in advertising and this change would cut of that revenue. 

[Did some research]

The actor whose image is being used was never acknowledged by the company, never consented to have her image used, and never received a single penny in compensation.  However, the white voice actors used in ads were all paid.   

If the a person's image is being used for a commercial endeavor without consent or compensation than that is a clear example of appropriation instead of representation. 

[CF DolFan]

First thoughts upon reading this.....

Really, I just thought she was a caricature, I didn't realize she was an actual person.  I wonder if the reason her family is bothered by this that her heirs must be getting hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions per year in royalties for using her image in advertising and this change would cut of that revenue. 

[Did some research]

The actor whose image is being used was never acknowledged by the company, never consented to have her image used, and never received a single penny in compensation.  However, the white voice actors used in ads were all paid.   

If the a person's image is being used for a commercial endeavor without consent or compensation than that is a clear example of appropriation instead of representation. 

Aunt Jemima rebranding rankles family of some women who portrayed her, who say they're being erased
https://abc7chicago.com/aunt-jemima-new-name-nancy-green-history/10327731/

Looks like the families are still getting royalties. Well at least they were before she was removed.



"It's a gross miscarriage of justice," said Dannez Hunter, great grandson of Anna Short Harrington. "Let's put it in context of what it really actually is, a propaganda campaign."

Hunter, who said both his great grandmother and his grandmother portrayed the fictional character for the company, said the move not only cheats his family out of earnings both women are due, but also erases them from history.

 "They are engaged in a propaganda campaign to steal not only the royalties from my family, but change the name," he said.

[CF DolFan]

Back on topic ... Kind of funny that even on the west coast numbers are dropping. Now that gay bars are dropping them too this will get worse before it gets better.




Bud Light's hangover from hell: Sales figures for America's once-favorite beer reveal how EVERY region in U.S. has turned its back since the
- Dylan Mulvaney tie-up - as Anheuser-Busch stock is downgraded over 'crisis'
- Numbers have dropped across the US, with sales in the Rocky Mountains plummeting by 29 percent
- The South Atlantic, West North Central and East South Central regions all fell 25 percent
- Anheuser-Busch has had their stock downgraded by analysts at HSBC who say the brewing giant is in a 'crisis 
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12068311/Bud-Light-sales-plunged-region-dropping-29-heartlands.html

[Fau Teixeira]

I doubt this will affect the company AB-Inbev much at all.

It's a multi-national company HQd in belgium, i'm sure if they were to reverse their position, 2 things would happen.
1 - they'd see few to no returning customers that left because they are frankly, lost causes
2 - they'd see backlash from the more liberal parts of the US market and a large part of the european market.

The fact that the article mentions that all these conservatives are switching to Guiness is hilarious, that company is just as liberal, if not more so than AB Inbev.

[CF DolFan]

Most people I know have switched to Miller or Coors light which they were already drinking at times anyway. Each of them have supported gay causes but neither has tried forcing fake women down their customers throats. That’s all people are complaining about. I’m not as familiar with Guiness but I’d guess they probably similar.

[Dave Gray]

Isn't Bud Light's crime that they sent a can to a trans influencer?  I'm not sure what's being crammed down your throat.

Conservative Internet culture is a weird breed.  Nobody in real life gives a shit about this.  It must be exhausting to just be constantly butthurt about black mammies on your pancake box, the gender of your M&Ms, how gay your beer is, who is kneeling, etc.  I get not supporting a product if you don't agree with their politics, but y'all are next-level.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Most people I know have switched to Miller or Coors light which they were already drinking at times anyway. Each of them have supported gay causes but neither has tried forcing fake women down their customers throats. That’s all people are complaining about. I’m not as familiar with Guiness but I’d guess they probably similar.

Another one of you mythical friends that turned from progressive to joining the hardcore right over something that has not bothered liberals or moderates only the most hardcore MAGA.

[CF DolFan]

Another one of you mythical friends that turned from progressive to joining the hardcore right over something that has not bothered liberals or moderates only the most hardcore MAGA.

LOL ... please explain your completely off the wall comment. I never said anything about progressive friends but I get the actual topic of discussion has never concerned you. "Them" is the beer companies of Coors and Miller Light. I mentioned "their" customers in the same sentence so I know it really was pretty self explanatory. Guess it's hard to see through those hate goggles.