Hunter Biden investigations (from GOP primary thread)

[Spider-Dan]

Also, we're not talking about being convicted. We're talking about being charged. It's irrelevant if Hunter biden is actually convicted. However, he should be charged.

And there's the shoe dropping.

You don't care about a conviction, because you don't care if he's guilty; in your own words, a conviction is "irrelevant."  Your political purposes are served by the indictment itself.

[pondwater]

This is literally how it works.  Otherwise, every musician who bragged about their drug use would be in prison.
Great suggestion!  I did reread it.  In that 14-page thread about the GOP primary, you have jumped in on two occasions: one post commenting on SS/Medicare/foreign aid funding, and then a bunch of posts 3 months later about Hunter Biden (which were split off into this thread).  At no point have you ever posted in that thread with commentary about the GOP primary; the only participation you have made in that thread are attempts to derail it.

Hope your "friends" are still laughing!
And now you're pretending like you're unfamiliar with "fringe wingbat" Joe Rogan, all to avoid the obvious implications of the prosecutorial philosophy you are are advocating.  Let me guess: you also "don't know much about" Elon Musk and won't comment on whether he should be arrested.

And you complain about other people dodging questions.
Every Accusation Is A Confession
Your political fellow travelers are "conservatives."  And you're still dodging the question.
Prior to any indictment for lying on a gun permit application, should Hunter Biden first be prosecuted for possession of drugs (along with everyone else who has publicly admitted to crimes), yes or no?
If I understand your objection correctly, you believe that I should have simply deleted all the posts in this thread as "off-topic."  And you think such action would have reflected... more maturity than splitting them off for further discussion.

Are you ready to continue with this thread? Because you're coming off as unhinged. This thread has nothing to do with me. Take some deep breaths, pop a Zoloft, and say it with me slowly, HUNTER BIDEN.

Duly noted.  I will keep this advice in mind for any future moderation decisions of your posts.

Fair enough, just make sure you delete all of the "off topic" posts that were posted before mine. In the case of the GOP thread, that would include posts by you, CF, and Hoodie. Unless of course you're just trying to single me out because you keep painting yourself into a corner.

[pondwater]

And there's the shoe dropping.

You don't care about a conviction, because you don't care if he's guilty; in your own words, a conviction is "irrelevant."  Your political purposes are served by the indictment itself.

To me he's presumed innocent until he's proven guilty. He deserves his right to defend himself. But he doesn't deserve the right to immunity from prosecution because he's the son of the POTUS.

[Spider-Dan]

You already gave up the game.  In your eyes, whether Hunter Biden is guilty or innocent of the crime doesn't matter; you just want him to be charged.  Even if the prosecutor is certain that this case is a loser and a waste of time, YOU want him to charge Hunter anyway.  Because a conviction would be "irrelevant."

The astute reader may note that this is a carbon copy of the Hillary e-mail investigation, where conservatives were furious that the FBI didn't indict her even after the director made it clear that there's no way she would be convicted.  A conviction isn't the point, because guilt or innocence literally doesn't matter to you; you just want charges because that suits your political ends.

[pondwater]

You already gave up the game.  In your eyes, whether Hunter Biden is guilty or innocent of the crime doesn't matter; you just want him to be charged.  Even if the prosecutor is certain that this case is a loser and a waste of time, YOU want him to charge Hunter anyway.  Because a conviction would be "irrelevant."

The astute reader may note that this is a carbon copy of the Hillary e-mail investigation, where conservatives were furious that the FBI didn't indict her even after the director made it clear that there's no way she would be convicted.  A conviction isn't the point, because guilt or innocence literally doesn't matter to you; you just want charges because that suits your political ends.

Those are some pretty neato conspiracy theories you have there lil fella. I've fully explained my position several times and you refuse to acknowledge it or engage in a rational manner. So we'll just agree to disagree and I'll let you be the winner of TDMMC for today. Anyhow, see you tomorrow friend, have a great evening and I hope you start feeling better. This post serves as your participation trophy, enjoy.

[pondwater]

The FBI Director in congressional meetings yesterday basically admitted that they have the 17 recordings of the informant from Ukrainian Natural Gas Company. 15 of Hunter and 2 directly of Joe Biden. The informant has kept them in case anything ever happened and here it is ... happening.  The FBI's only reason for not answering more directly is because "of life and death" issues. Their words. Kind of funny this wasn't big news last night.

I saw that pop up on the Google news feed earlier but didn't have time to read it. What are these "life or death" issues they were talking about?

[Spider-Dan]

The FBI Director in congressional meetings yesterday basically admitted that they have the 17 recordings of the informant from Ukrainian Natural Gas Company. 15 of Hunter and 2 directly of Joe Biden. The informant has kept them in case anything ever happened and here it is ... happening.

I wonder if this is the same "informant" that House Republicans lost track of and who has mysteriously died.

You see, Republicans were just about to deliver all this solid, reliable evidence instead of the flimsy BS nonsense they have been showing so far... but the dog ate their homework the informant died!  It was probably the Clinton Death Squads.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I wonder if this is the same "informant" that House Republicans lost track of and who has mysteriously died.

You see, Republicans were just about to deliver all this solid, reliable evidence instead of the flimsy BS nonsense they have been showing so far... but the dog ate their homework the informant died!  It was probably the Clinton Death Squads.

It is the same informant with the "proof" that Hugo Chávez stole the election for Biden.   

[CF DolFan]

I wonder if this is the same "informant" that House Republicans lost track of and who has mysteriously died.

You see, Republicans were just about to deliver all this solid, reliable evidence instead of the flimsy BS nonsense they have been showing so far... but the dog ate their homework the informant died!  It was probably the Clinton Death Squads.

Nope. Still very alive and not suicidal from what I've heard.

There are two issues here. One is the fact that said recording exist and if true the sitting President is guilty of many things. The other and completely separate matter is the fact the FBI has had this information for quite a while and done nothing.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Nope. Still very alive and not suicidal from what I've heard.

There are two issues here. One is the fact that said recording exist and if true the sitting President is guilty of many things. The other and completely separate matter is the fact the FBI has had this information for quite a while and done nothing.

The FBI has an unverified claim from an unreliable source that claims that someone told them their exists tapes that implicated Biden in a bribery scheme. The purpose of the FD1023 is record unverified "tips".  If I was to call the FBI and claim that someone told me that CF DolFan was running an meth lab out of the basement the Miami Bucees, there would be an FD1023 saying that CF DolFan was running a meth lab out of the basement of the Miami Bucees.  Is the FBI going to raid the Miami Bucess because of that?  Probably not, as the nearest Bucees is in Dayton Beach.  

[Phishfan]

They also don't have basements in Miami.

[Spider-Dan]

They also don't have basements in Miami.

Oh, I'm sure you'd like us to believe that.  But it's a SECRET basement!

The fact that said basement doesn't even exist didn't stop Republicans from running full-speed-ahead with Pizzagate.  Conservative conspiracies can never be slowed by mere facts, which is why we are still talking about Hunter Biden in the first place.

[Fau Teixeira]

yeah i looked around for this last night .. this is not a thing .. pure bunch of fabricated conspiracy bullshit .. probably from 4chan or something

[CF DolFan]

Biden family business associate Devon Archer is cooperating with House Republicans who are investigating an alleged $10 million bribery payment from a top Ukrainian gas company to Joe and Hunter Biden. The Burisma executive has kept 17 audio recordings of phone calls as an 'insurance policy' - 15 on Hunter and two on Joe.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12203003/Biden-business-partner-Devon-Archer-COOPERATING-Republicans-alleged-10-million-payment.html

https://nypost.com/2023/06/15/hunter-biden-associate-devon-archer-to-dish-on-10-million-bribe/

[Spider-Dan]

He's "cooperating" with an "investigation."

Have House Republicans heard any of these messages?
If so, have they disclosed the specific incriminating statements on them?
Why do any of that when you can instead have endless "informants" trigger "investigations" without ever producing actionable evidence?

Note that this is precisely the House GOP's issue with the FBI over Hunter Biden: they didn't do enough investigations.   Just like pondwater admitted above, it's not about having enough evidence to obtain a conviction; that's irrelevant.  Republicans just want investigations and charges; that's enough to meet their political needs.