Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
September 01, 2025, 02:46:30 am
Home Help Search Calendar Login Register
News: Brian Fein is now blogging weekly!  Make sure to check the homepage for his latest editorial.
+  The Dolphins Make Me Cry.com - Forums
|-+  TDMMC Forums
| |-+  Off-Topic Board
| | |-+  The new fears of Cubans in Florida
« previous next »
Pages: 1 [2] Print
Author Topic: The new fears of Cubans in Florida  (Read 679 times)
CF DolFan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 17622


cf_dolfan
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2025, 03:47:07 pm »

A resident of a state or DC that moves to puerto rico doesn't get to vote for president either, it's not a function of being puerto rican, it's a function of that territory not having electors.  Someone from Iowa isn't less american if they move to puerto rico
They can do an absentee ballot as they still have voting rights.
Logged

Getting offended by something you see on the internet is like choosing to step in dog shite instead of walking around it.
Spider-Dan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 16302


Bay Area Niner-Hater


« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2025, 08:35:49 pm »

If you move to PR (i.e. you no longer have a residence in Iowa), filling out an Iowa absentee voter ballot is voter fraud.

If I moved to Puerto Rico from New York, can I use my previous address in NY as my voting residence?

So if you are a civilian and citizen of the United States, and you move from the state of New York to the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, are you eligible to vote in New York by absentee ballot under UOCAVA? The answer is NO. You have NOT technically left the United States. For UOCAVA purposes, Puerto Rico is just as much part of the United States as New York is, and so you will vote as a resident of Puerto Rico.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2025, 09:31:48 pm by Spider-Dan » Logged

Fau Teixeira
Administrator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 6405



« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2025, 09:11:51 pm »

same goes for Guam, american samoa, US virgin islands and the rest of the outlying territories
Logged
CF DolFan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 17622


cf_dolfan
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2025, 10:33:48 am »

If you move to PR (i.e. you no longer have a residence in Iowa), filling out an Iowa absentee voter ballot is voter fraud.

If I moved to Puerto Rico from New York, can I use my previous address in NY as my voting residence?

So if you are a civilian and citizen of the United States, and you move from the state of New York to the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, are you eligible to vote in New York by absentee ballot under UOCAVA? The answer is NO. You have NOT technically left the United States. For UOCAVA purposes, Puerto Rico is just as much part of the United States as New York is, and so you will vote as a resident of Puerto Rico.
No one said about changing legal residence. People live all around the world but are still American citizens who vote.

Formally stated:

U.S. citizens living outside of the U.S. are only permitted to register and vote in the state and county where they last established residence (domicile) in the U.S. before moving outside of the country. This is your "voting residence address," and it is this address that defines your state and jurisdiction for voting. You cannot use a P.O. Box as your last U.S. address.

https://www.overseasvotefoundation.org/content/what-state-do-i-vote-if-i-live-abroad
Logged

Getting offended by something you see on the internet is like choosing to step in dog shite instead of walking around it.
Fau Teixeira
Administrator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 6405



« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2025, 11:35:03 am »

Puerto Rico isn't "outside the US" so an Iowan moving to PR, doesn't get to vote in Iowa anymore

is that the hangup here? you think PR is "outside the US"? It isn't
« Last Edit: August 29, 2025, 11:36:52 am by Fau Teixeira » Logged
Dave Gray
Administrator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 31064

It's doo-doo, baby!

26384964 davebgray@comcast.net davebgray floridadavegray
WWW Email
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2025, 02:50:05 pm »

CF, it's like if you move from Florida to Washington, D.C., you don't get senate representation anymore.  If you still have legal residence in Florida and just happen to vote absentee while in DC, then you do.
Logged

I drink your milkshake!
CF DolFan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 17622


cf_dolfan
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2025, 04:01:25 pm »

CF, it's like if you move from Florida to Washington, D.C., you don't get senate representation anymore.  If you still have legal residence in Florida and just happen to vote absentee while in DC, then you do.
You don't get Puerto Rican senate representation if you move there but you can live in Puerto Rico and still vote for president and the Senators for the State you are registered in.  That's no difference than moving to Iceland. You won't get local representation in DC but can still vote for president, senators, etc in the last state you were registered in via absentee ballot
« Last Edit: August 29, 2025, 04:03:17 pm by CF DolFan » Logged

Getting offended by something you see on the internet is like choosing to step in dog shite instead of walking around it.
Spider-Dan
Global Moderator
Uber Member
*****
Posts: 16302


Bay Area Niner-Hater


« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2025, 10:02:32 pm »

You don't get Puerto Rican senate representation if you move there but you can live in Puerto Rico and still vote for president and the Senators for the State you are registered in.
No, you cannot.

- If you legally reside at a home you still rent in Iowa, you can vote with that as your legal address, whether you are currently staying in San Juan, Atlanta, Tokyo, or Paris.
- If you end that lease in Iowa and you move to Iceland, you can still absentee vote as a US citizen and former Iowa resident, using the address of the Iowa home you no longer rent.
- If you end that lease in Iowa and move somewhere else in the US, be it Honolulu, Puerto Rico, Wyoming, or DC, you must register as a voter in your new US jurisdiction, where you are entitled to vote for the seats allotted to your current area of residence.

If you live within the United States (and Puerto Rico is within the United States), it is voter fraud to register and vote using an address that is not yours (be it rent, own, whatever).  So if you MOVE to Puerto Rico, you must register to vote as a resident of Puerto Rico, like every other US citizen that lives there.

Quote
That's no difference than moving to Iceland.
Iceland is not part of the United States!  That's the difference!
« Last Edit: August 29, 2025, 10:09:45 pm by Spider-Dan » Logged

Pages: 1 [2] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  

The Dolphins Make Me Cry - Copyright© 2008 - Designed and Marketed by Dave Gray


Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines