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« on: April 28, 2006, 06:46:56 pm »

There's a big hub-bub down here tonight about some people wanting to create a Spanish version of the national anthem, the Star Spangled Banner.

http://www2.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/MI19472/

Apparently, according to that article, I'm not the only one who thinks that's BS.

Here's the song translated to English:

http://www2.wsvn.com/news/articles/extra/MI19541/

What do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2006, 07:02:45 pm »

I think that all these illegal aliens and people who support them (like the artists who collaborated on this "song" AND 90% of Congress and the Senate) are making a mockery of our laws, and giving the finger to immigrants who are here legally.
I hope that every one of them who protest on Monday lose their damn jobs for not showing up for work.

This is a disgrace.
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2006, 07:58:28 pm »

I couldn't care less.  The Star Spangled Banner is the national anthem of the United States of America.  If people want to translate it to Spanish, French, Korean, or Klingon...that's fine by me. 

Everyone is welcome to sing the praises of the greatest country of them all.
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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2006, 08:01:26 pm »

But, I DO care if they're going to clog up traffic and run a stupid protest, which will inevitably result in assaulting police officers and destroying public property.  You're allowed to hold a public protest, but it has to be in a civil manner that doesn't disrupt anyone else.

Translate the song, but don't cause trouble.
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2006, 08:32:51 pm »

I couldn't care less.  The Star Spangled Banner is the national anthem of the United States of America.  If people want to translate it to Spanish, French, Korean, or Klingon...that's fine by me. 

Everyone is welcome to sing the praises of the greatest country of them all.

It doesn't look translated to me.  It looks like a completely different song.  That's the problem I have with it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2006, 08:52:25 pm »

I'm curious ... how many other countries allow immigrants to change their country to fit them?  It seems to me if you want to come here you should at least be willing to 1) speak/learn the language and 2) accept the laws, cultures and traditions already established there.

I realize there are many spanish speaking people who have come to the United States so it is beneficial for businesses to have Spanish speaking people but it drives me crazy when those same people don't recognize that they need to learn to speak english or that english is the language of "our" country.
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2006, 09:26:16 pm »

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None.  The United States was built on allowing immigrants to come from abroad and shape this country to the way it is today.  It's just history repeating itself.
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2006, 09:44:57 pm »

None.  The United States was built on allowing immigrants to come from abroad and shape this country to the way it is today.  It's just history repeating itself.

LEGAL immigrants. Not fence jumping trespassers. These people do not give a shit about being an American. They are flicking off our laws. They are already CRIMINALS. Now, they want amnesty, and citizenship. This march they have planned for Monday is nothing more than a slap in the face. Wake up!
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2006, 09:59:56 pm »

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I couldn't care less.  The Star Spangled Banner is the national anthem of the United States of America.  If people want to translate it to Spanish, French, Korean, or Klingon...that's fine by me. 

Everyone is welcome to sing the praises of the greatest country of them all.

Bingo!  Our anthem is suddenly beyond translation?  Much more historically important things have been translated (Bible,  Anyone?  Anyone?), and we don't seem to mind.  They're taking creative license, and that's their choice.  I won't be SINGING the anthem in Spanish anytime soon, or ever, mind you, but I really don't see what the big to do is all about.
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2006, 10:10:49 pm »

Bingo!  Our anthem is suddenly beyond translation?  Much more historically important things have been translated (Bible,  Anyone?  Anyone?), and we don't seem to mind.  They're taking creative license, and that's their choice.  I won't be SINGING the anthem in Spanish anytime soon, or ever, mind you, but I really don't see what the big to do is all about.

Because those are the proper words to the song and because English is our national language. People that immigrate to this country should learn English, but many of them don't. I have no problem with them speaking their native tongues in addition to English. But many of them come here instead demanding that we change things to accommodate their lack of English speech. IMO, this is just another example of that. It needs to be translated to Spanish so they can understand it without learning English. But worse than that, it wasn't even properly translated. And no, it's not just translation difficulty. It's not even close. I don't expect it to translate perfectly, but it should be close. The fact that it isn't suggests that it's deliberately inaccurate. It's a mockery. That mockery is particularly evident in the last line:

Tell me! Does its starry beauty still wave
above the land of the free,
the sacred flag?


In a free country, the artists who recorded it can do what they want. However, we are also allowed to criticize. These people are using this in defiance of our country. No comprende English? Fine --- but don't expect us to accommodate you by spending money to print all of our signs and government documents in Spanish.
And don't call me a racist when I go into a store, and leave pissed off when I can't find anyone in the store to tell me if they have any dried habaneros in stock.

Will there be a music video for it on MTV? There could put in some clips of the illegals sneaking under the fence. Just keepin' it real, as they say in the rap world.

This is a slap in the face to We The People, and all our government sees is more people to tax and more votes.


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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2006, 10:33:27 pm »

Because those are the proper words to the song and because English is our national language. People that immigrate to this country should learn English, but many of them don't. I have no problem with them speaking their native tongues in addition to English. But many of them come here instead demanding that we change things to accommodate their lack of English speech. IMO, this is just another example of that. It needs to be translated to Spanish so they can understand it without learning English. But worse than that, it wasn't even properly translated. And no, it's not just translation difficulty. It's not even close. I don't expect it to translate perfectly, but it should be close. The fact that it isn't suggests that it's deliberately inaccurate. It's a mockery. That mockery is particularly evident in the last line:

Tell me! Does its starry beauty still wave
above the land of the free,
the sacred flag?


In a free country, the artists who recorded it can do what they want. However, we are also allowed to criticize. These people are using this in defiance of our country. No comprende English? Fine --- but don't expect us to accommodate you by spending money to print all of our signs and government documents in Spanish.
And don't call me a racist when I go into a store, and leave pissed off when I can't find anyone in the store to tell me if they have any dried habaneros in stock.

Will there be a music video for it on MTV? There could put in some clips of the illegals sneaking under the fence. Just keepin' it real, as they say in the rap world.

This is a slap in the face to We The People, and all our government sees is more people to tax and more votes.

This is the main reason I left Miami (with traffic and high gas and insurance prices being secondary).  Due to my inability to speak Spanish and unwillingness to learn it, I could not find a job.  Everywhere I went, they wanted someone who was bi-lingual.  To me, that is a form of discrimination. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2006, 10:47:04 pm »

Everywhere I went, they wanted someone who was bi-lingual. To me, that is a form of discrimination.

A language is a skill.  It's not discrimination, any more than not hiring someone who doesn't speak English is discrimination.

This song is paying homage to America.  It's not dissing it.

This whole illegal alien thing is hyprocritical.  People just don't like Mexicans.  Nobody is flipping out when Canadiens drive South.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2006, 10:53:07 pm »

A language is a skill.  It's not discrimination, any more than not hiring someone who doesn't speak English is discrimination.

This song is paying homage to America.  It's not dissing it.

This whole illegal alien thing is hyprocritical.  People just don't like Mexicans.  Nobody is flipping out when Canadiens drive South.

I like Mexicans just fine...Legal ones. There aren't 22 million illegal Canadiens here demanding citizenship either.
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2006, 12:42:38 am »

Because those are the proper words to the song and because English is our national language.

Actually, I don't believe this to be true.  We don't have a national language, to my understanding.
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2006, 12:51:43 am »

Actually, I don't believe this to be true.  We don't have a national language, to my understanding.

You're kidding, right?

Just looked it up, and you're right. However, every single US document is English.

So, I'll ask a different question...Why are you for allowing these people to break the law?
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