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Make a pick and log it here. The winner will get something random that I find on Google Images. lol

I think it will be Billick

Jeff fisher.

I think if Ireland had his way....Rex Ryan would be in.

Please don't make this happen Mr.Ross.....one Ryan is enough in our division...simply not enough food to support these two clowns along the East coast!

Sorry not Rex, his pregnant brother.

Billick. Because that's the highest profile guy Ross will be able to convince to come. My prediction is that Cowher and Gruden aren't coaching next year and someone else gets Fisher.

I'll go with Billick, though that may be wishful thinking on my part.

Given that Cowher, Gruden, and Fisher are all reportedly out, if it's not Billick, we're looking at another Cam Cameron-style hire.

I will go with Fisher.

Ross opens up the vault and overwhelms Fisher with enough money and just enough power that Jeff finds it hard to turn down.

Billick

I'd say Billick because no one else seems to be showing much interest in him.  Gruden will stay in the booth.  Cowher will go to the Rams.  Fisher to Tampa.

Billick is the only coach who has said that he wants to be there. I want someone who wants to be there rather than someone we have to beg.

They threw their best at Fisher yesterday so if he didn't bite I find it hard to believe he will be the one. There are always inside sources who can't keep their mouths shut. 

^^

Did you see the photos of Ireland and Ross taking pictures of Fisher as he boarded the chopper? Talk about embarrassing.

I can't say I have much "football" respect for either. I still think Ross is too much of a fan to separate himself from making the right calls and Ireland seems to full of himself for a person who hasn't accomplished much.

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http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/07/2578694/jeff-fisher-by-logic-is-miami.html#storylink=cpy

Well cross Billick of the list. Here is the skinny on why he won't be in Miami. He cost Ross $40 million and Ross hasn't forgotten! LOL

Not so much that he cost Ross $40 million from what I read, but the fact that Ross was joking around, and Billick called him out for it in his book.  That's a big no-no.

Can I change my prediction now? lol

NFL network reporting Fisher to Rams. -EK

If Armando is being serious... This is the most retarded perspective on a situation I have ever read from a professional writer.

I am going to predict Billick.  I think Fisher is scared of the Pats ruining his rep and our history of poor ticket sales (which really puts pressure on coaches).  He got beat all those years by Indi and I think he looks at New England the same.  Billick is the biggest name to just be happy with a shot on a team with some talent.  He isn't so egotistical that he can't work with Ireland and some of our other staff.  He has shown that even though his skills are offensive, that he can work with the strengths of his personnel and not get in the way.   

To flesh out the news on Fisher, he's apparently at the Rams' facility checking things out and meeting with players.

It's safe to say the Dolphins lost out on Fisher, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.  A "big name" approach has failed three times in the past.

the unproven/assistant approach hasn't been working either. lol

Well I hope things ended nicely with Fisher, because if the Fins want RGIII they will have to make a deal with the Rams for the #2 pick.

Saw this in an article this morning. It kind of sums up our team these days. I really don't expect much in the way of positive moves for Miami any longer as it doesn't appear we get much respect outside of our fan base.

Glazer said the Dolphins are expected to ask permission to interview Zimmer, who has spent the past 12 years as an NFL defensive coordinator — seven with Dallas, one with Atlanta and the past four with Cincinnati. His defense ranked 15th last season and seventh this season. But Zimmer’s defense didn’t play well Saturday in a 31-10 playoff loss to Houston, which was led by rookie quarterback T.J. Yates.

The Dolphins also plan to speak with Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey, whose offense played poorly in Sunday’s 24-2 playoff loss to the Giants.


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/01/09/2579988/miami-dolphins-have-backup-plan.html#storylink=cpy[/i]

I wonder if we could get Indy's HC?

/sarcasm

Philbin looks like the favorite right now.

I can't remember who said it ... it might have been Mike ... but I wish they would look at Jay Gruden. I think Jacksonville is and if they select Jay then I'm bettting a bunch of Central Florida people will focus their attention on Jax instead of Miami. Especially the younger than 40 crowd. This could be good for Jax and Central Florida as I think it's easier to relate to Jax than South Florida these days. It's definitely easier to get to see them on tv.

Are you Mygodwearsahoodie's (http://www.thedolphinsmakemecry.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=870) father?  >:D

^^^

Now THAT'S funny!

LOL

Search your feelings.  You know it to be true.

If this is really the reason that Billick is not being considered, I have even more doubts about Ross as an owner. Really? Because he lost a game that may have cost you money? It's not like he personally stole your 40 million. If you want to be upset with someone, you should probably be upset with Huizenga, not Billick.

HAHA no relation, seperate religion I am sure.

My father is a Giants fan.  So yes, he has turned to the Darkside.  (at least my opinion in 2007). 

St. Louis local media is reporting that the Rams have set up an interview for Thursday with the Broncos' defensive coordinator for the vacant HC gig...

( http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/professional/rams-stay-active-in-coach-gm-search/article_4f0509b5-a05c-50ac-8c68-2a46182f77a5.html )

Fisher to Rams not so final after all?

TV station in Eugene is saying the Fins have contacted Chip Kelly's agent

Armando said he has talked to high ranking Dolphins people and the story is not true and they haven't reached out to Kelly or his agent

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is getting ridiculous.

What will be the new OC.

And I don't know will be the new DC.

Tommorow will coach the QBs. 

I get the feeling that by not hiring Bowles, they are letting their best candidate go. Every other "candidate" after Fisher is an OC from some other team. As long as Ireland is the GM, the "brand name" coaches aren't coming. Plain & simple. Bringing in other unproven offensive coordinators will actually make this team worse next season.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkdbkrSQseo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkdbkrSQseo)

I see what you did there. I might be the only one old enough to recognize an Abbott and Costello bit. :)

I thought What was on second?

You didn't click my link... and that hurts.

^^ Sorry, I'm at work and couldn't view it. No offense intended.  ;D

When you do click it you will realize exactly how cool & hip I am as well as old.

So now that Fisher is off the table, who looks like the next likely coach?

Seeing as how it was apparently Ross'  love of Ireland that sent Fisher away I'm guessing we should be asking who will be the next owner.  We are on a one way dead end street.  People like Peter King and others have already been saying use caution when dealing with him.  This won't help the franchise's image any.

I say this and I don't care that we lost Fisher. I just think we have a bad owner. 

From Armando Salguero column today

Fisher search leads national pundits to question Fins



Even as Jeff Fisher continues to ponder what team he will coach and what team's owner will be his new boss, Dolphins owner Stephen Ross is taking it on the chin from national pundits that obviously don't hold him in high regard.

The latest to take a swipe at Ross is Foxsports.com and FOX-TV NFL insider Jay Glazer, who today held a live chat on the website he works for and was asked his thoughts on Ross.

"I think he is a great businessman but doesn't know what he doens't know when it comes to the NFL," Glazer said. "He has no idea the type of effect many of the things he does has. I wouldn't say he's a meddler and he definitely wants to win but he's done some things behind the scenes that has had many inside the league scratching their heads. Going to interview Jim Harbaugh last year while Sparano was still emplyed was ridiculous."

This comes only one day after Peter King of NBC's Sunday Night Football over America and the entire Earth not to mention the inner Planets, was asked on twitter what is the general perception of the Dolphins organization (Ross/Jeff Ireland) around the league?

"Proceed with caution," King answered.

Glazer and King obviously agree.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2012/01/fisher-search-leads-national-pundit-to-question-fins.html#storylink=cpy

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I am not sure why either......Ireland has not done anything great for this franchise!  ??? He should have been fired with Tony!!!!!

Do you know this?  Maybe behind closed doors Ireland supported Moore being the starting QB week 1 and TS opposed that move.  If so, and I was the owner I would give Ireland more control over personnel and fire Tony. 

I think Mangini got a major bump in the odds, after Fisher picked  St. Louis.

Hoodie ... It still wouldn't matter. You need to clean up the Dolphins on and off the field. Fisher does the off the field stuff once he is announced. Now you just added to the crazy image the league already has of you. You were willing to pay 7 million plus Tony's two years but not pull osme of Ireland's authority? That doesn't make sense at all.

Oh I know, I just think Ross is a pretty crummy owner in general and the person that is whispering in his ears is not helping at all.  In the best case scenario for Miami, Ross will become frustrated after a few seasons and sell this team to someone wiser.

I don't know anymore than any other casual fan does but it seems pretty obvious to me that both Ireland and Tony needed to go.


This really scares the hell out of me........ >:(

Now the Dolphins are whining that Fisher "used them".  I swear it's tough being a Phins fan anymore. It's as if we are repaying the football gods for going undefeated!!!
From Mike Florio ... you know oyu love him!!!

Now that Jeff Fisher has picked his next team, the loser can begin to chew on sour grapes.
 
The first volley comes from Mike Freeman of CBS, who reports based on an unnamed Dolphins source that “Jeff Fisher used us.”
 
Ya think?
 
It was a classic leverage game, with Fisher manipulating once side against the other in order to get the best deal possible.  Even Adam Schefter of ESPN, who insisted (presumably on Fisher’s behalf) that leverage wasn’t being exerted, couldn’t ultimately deny that it was a leverage game.
 
Indeed it was.  It’s now too late for the Dolphins to cry about it.  Desperate to legitimize the ownership of the team by Stephen Ross, the Dolphins did whatever they had to do to land Jeff Fisher.  They had to know there was a significant risk that Fisher was using their zeal in order to get the best terms possible out of Rams owner Stan Kroenke.
 
Kroenke took the same risk.  And Kroenke won.  Regardless, the loser only looks like more of a loser by whining about an outcome that the loser knew was entirely possible.

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That is asinine....I think (at least from what I have read) it was obvious that Fisher had some demands to select a coaching gig. We did not offer/meet those demands and the Rams did. Why cry foul and make your franchise seem even more fucked up than it already is.  ::)

Besides that don't most "free agents' whether it be a player or coach use leverage and other teams to get what they want? Why bitch about a standard procedure because you came out on the losing end!!!!!

Well. We now know why Chuckie went from interviewing on MNF to turning down the offer. He probably didn't want to work for Ireland either.

Mike Florio is a buffoon.  Fisher wanted to be the final say.  Ross wanted Ireland.  crystal clear.  Its not a conspiracy.

No big name coach wants the job where he has no say over what players he gets.

Brian ... no one said any different. Well Armando did slightly but Florio didn't. He just said the Dolphins were whining.

From Armando
According to an NFL source close to Fisher, Ross was not willing to give Fisher power over the entire football operations, including veto power of decisions by general manager Jeff Ireland.

[Update 1: A club source tells me Fisher never requested full authority over the Dolphins. Source says club's understanding was that Fisher and Ireland would work together, agreeing mutually on personnel.]

Obviously, given the contradictory stories coming from the Dolphins and the source who is in the Fisher camp, the two sides were apparently not speaking the same language here. Either that or someone is fibbing.

That leaves the Dolphins, who hoped to lure Fisher to become their coach, scrambling to recover from yet another disappointment following a season filled with disappointments.

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2012/01/jeff-fisher-picks-rams-over-dolphins.html?cid=6a00d83451b26169e201676079df5b970b#storylink=cpy

Ross and the Dolphins can't whine that Fisher used them. When they last year used Sparano in a crappy way. KARMA!!! What comes around goes around, I don't want to hear it out of Ross and the Dolphins. You took Sparano for a ride and now someone took you for a ride. Deal with it and stop complaining. THIS IS WHY NOBODY WANTS TO COME HERE! Nonsense like this. Do they (he) not get it yet!  Just shut up and find a coach don't cry about how Fisher used you! Yeah he did, so what? Just shut up about it. Nobody is going to feel sorry for you in this league. Whining about it makes things worse!

this

Looks like Fins are bringing Mike Zimmer back for 2nd interview. If hired you could expect Todd Haley or Hue Jackson as offensive coordinator.

Fins are interviewing someone today but they haven't announced who. Could be Mike Sherman but that is only a rumor going around on twitter

Obviously Fisher went to the Rams so he's out, I dont believe Cowher or Gruden are coaching next season therefore I'd like to see someone like Zimmer maybe, Brian Bellick i dunno if he's ineterested, but one thing that worries me Ireland had been there for a while and obviously things aren't working out good for Miami with him there so I dunno why Ross is still keeping him. Ireland is like a bad luck, I hope im wrong and they can turn this upcoming season around but I hope this is his last chance to keep his job. If the Dolphins stink next season Jeff Ireland should be the first one gone, and Ross should start acting more like the owner and not a fan, too many empty seats!!

Well, how about Billick or Hue at this point?

If the Packers lose today (down 10 as I type this) I think Miami gives Philbin a 2nd interview to see where is head is at. From some reports Philbin was the next guy after Fisher. Just with this son's death that changes things

PFT is reporting Miami is leaning towards Zimmer and he might be the guy.

Tampa wants to talk to Zimmer so Miami might move quick to lock him up. For offensive coordinators 2 things to remember. Todd Haley has the same agent as Ireland. And Zimmer and Hue Jackson have worked together in the past. So those are 2 guys to consider. Unless the front office force Daboll down Zimmers throat.

I wouldn't mind Zimmer getting a chance with Haley being the OC.  It could be a good combo. 

I think Zimmer might go with Hue Jackson over Haley. Both are good guys though

Zimmer is interviewing with Tampa Bay tomorrow. So, Miami can't sleep on this if they want him. I am a big Zimmer fan and would love the hire. So we will see how it plays out

I read last week that Oakland was interested in Philbin, not sure where that's at.  I'd have my doubts about Philbin at his point, he's not going to get over the death of his son any time soon, and the Fins need someone 80 hrs a week at his point.

Dolphins will interview Mike McCoy early this week according to the Miami Herald

Is the whole Zimmer-Irleand-Dallas connection completely being ignored here? If you want more of the same, keep pulling for it.

Yeah.  Now we're way beyond the Dolphins signing Cowboy castoff players.  Now they gotta do it with the coaches too.

At this point the Dolphins should cut their losses and keep Bowles. They really shoulldn't bring in "coordinator X" last minute and pay him a bunch of money to coach a team that will look very similar to what we finished with.The Senior Bowl is only about 10 days away and it isn't like any new coach is going to get the staff they want anyway. I think we willl draft a lineman because that's a safe bet for Ireland. Ticket sales are going to suck regardless because OG Jonathan Martin isn't going to excite the masses. If they keep Bowles on for another year maybe we will be in a better postion to land a coach, qb, and GM.

This HC search is really starting to annoy me.  I've not been one to jump on the Ross is an idiot bandwagon, but...its been six weeks since Sparano was fired, and months since the 0-7 start at which point everyone knew Sparano wasn't coming back.  STILL we sit here without a coach, this has been F*&C$ed up!  You can't tell me there aren't dozens of guys out there that would want to be an NFL Head Coach.  Might as well grab a college coach at this point.

Maybe Ross wants someone from the Raven's, NEP, 49ers or Giants. 

If you want a coach with experience and has been to the SB....

Jim Caldwell is now available.  Colts fired him. 

^^I'd rather just have Peyton.  Maybe Peyton would be interested in being a player coach?  >:D

He is 2-14 as an assistant coach. 

They should have let Peyton call the plays. They probably would have won more games. :)