Brady Quinn over Ted Ginn plus Cam Cameron's incompetence

[Defense54]

 

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  O.J. McDuffie did it.
 

 


Show me were I EVER mentioned OJ Mcduffie and was he ever listed as our #1 Receiver ?   

So in other words, you have no names to backup your claims.

 Yeah......I had wire taps in every John in every war room during the draft....... Are you trying to say that nobody was surprised when Miami didn't take Quinn? 

You don't know that.

I'll use your logic then........So in other words   you have no data to back up your claims? 


You know damn well that Brady Quinn could get at the very least a conditional 1 st round pick for his services if Anderson continues his Play.

No one would give us anything close in comparison for Ginn.
 

[Dphins4me]

  
OJ Mcduffie and was he ever listed as our #1 Receiver ?   

  Yeap.  In the mid to late '90s he was. 

[Defense54]

  Yeap.  In the mid to late '90s he was. 

ooooOK........

Don't know what he has to do with Ginn but........rock on guys.   

In fact.........this thread should be locked for mentioning him. 
 

[simeon]

There should be a post should have Miami drafted Quinn, Ginn or somebody else.

[Sunstroke]

  They thought so much of his ability that they passed on him with the 3rd pick of the draft.  Shows what they actually thought of his ability.

C'mon now...that says a lot more for what they thought of Joe Thomas' ability than anything, and the fact that Cleveland paid high to go back into round one to get Quinn says plenty for what they thought of him.

[Dphins4me]

C'mon now...that says a lot more for what they thought of Joe Thomas' ability than anything, and the fact that Cleveland paid high to go back into round one to get Quinn says plenty for what they thought of him.

  Are you telling me you believe a team would rank a franchise LT over a franchise QB?  If so, it would be the first time a team did that.  It tells me a little of both.  They thought highly of Thomas & had questions about Quinn.  Questions most Miami fans have paid little attentions too.

Paid high?  They paid a 2nd Rd. pick.  The number one they paid is cancelled out by the No. 1 they got in return.  Dallas fell back ~13 slots. 

[Sunstroke]

The number one they paid is cancelled out by the No. 1 they got in return.  Dallas fell back ~13 slots. 

Sweet jesus on a unicycle...You know as well as I do that the first rounder they got was in no way related to the Quinn deal, so stop using irrelevant smoke and mirrors...this isn't a political thread.

[Defense54]

Sweet jesus on a unicycle...You know as well as I do that the first rounder they got was in no way related to the Quinn deal, so stop using irrelevant smoke and mirrors...this isn't a political thread.

Smoke and Mirrors is all they got.   

[Defense54]

  Are you telling me you believe a team would rank a franchise LT over a franchise QB?  If so, it would be the first time a team did that.  It tells me a little of both.  They thought highly of Thomas & had questions about Quinn.  Questions most Miami fans have paid little attentions too.

Paid high?  They paid a 2nd Rd. pick.  The number one they paid is cancelled out by the No. 1 they got in return.  Dallas fell back ~13 slots. 

A team that already had a good QB just might. It motivated Anderson into a Pro Bowl year And they will probably get a first rounder for him in the future . Smart move by Cleveland.  I hope to heck the Ginn turns into a pro-bowler......but if he doesn't what do we have in return?

[Rick]

  Are you telling me you believe a team would rank a franchise LT over a franchise QB?  If so, it would be the first time a team did that.  

Actually, Miami picked a franchise LT ( Jake Long) over a franchise QB (Matt Ryan) in this years draft.  It happens more then you think Dphins4me!  

[Defense54]

Actually, Miami picked a franchise LT ( Jake Long) over a franchise QB (Matt Ryan) in this years draft.  It happens more then you think Dphins4me!  

Excellent point.  At the #1 pick you gotta go for the surest thing. Nothing is for 100% sure......but Jake had the least amount of failure.  At #9 however......its worth the risk.

[Dphins4me]

Sweet jesus on a unicycle...You know as well as I do that the first rounder they got was in no way related to the Quinn deal, so stop using irrelevant smoke and mirrors...this isn't a political thread.

  What the hell are you talking about?   What No. 1 was not related to the Quinn deal?    The deal involved two No. 1 picks & a 2nd.

Maybe this will help.

Cleveland gave up
2008 1st Rd. pick ( No. 25 )
2007 2nd Rd. pick ( No. 34 )

Dallas gave up
2007 1st Rd. pick ( No. 22 )

That was the whole deal.  Where are you having trouble following this simple deal?  Where is the smoke & mirrors or are you just without any other retort so you are throwing anything up against the wall?

[Dphins4me]

A team that already had a good QB just might. It motivated Anderson into a Pro Bowl year And they will probably get a first rounder for him in the future. Smart move by Cleveland.  I hope to heck the Ginn turns into a pro-bowler......but if he doesn't what do we have in return?

  Sure a team with a good QB might.  Cleveland was not a good team & needed a QB desperately.  Why would Cleveland trade a PB QB for an unproven Qb?  The only way Anderson is traded in the near future is if he starts to suck again.

[Dphins4me]

Smoke and Mirrors is all they got.   

  What do the pro-Quinn have?  To draft a QB who fell 13 more spots?  One drafted lower than Rex Grossman.   

[Dphins4me]

Actually, Miami picked a franchise LT ( Jake Long) over a franchise QB (Matt Ryan) in this years draft.  It happens more then you think Dphins4me!  

  Where is the proof that this happens?

The only time a team drafts a franchise LT over a franchise Qb is when they already have one or they do not think much of the franchise Qb.  Cleveland did not think enough of Quinn to draft him over Thomas, just as Miami did not think enough of Ryan to take him over Long.