SOTG bucs

[Dave Gray]

As for Ginn, Brian:

He isn't in a vacuum and you can't evaluate each game by itself without knowing what got us there.  Expectations play a part in all of this.  If Ginn dropped a big play at the beginning of this game after having made some big catches before, that'd be one thing.  But he never makes the tough catch.  He gets open deep and regularly drops balls that hit him in the hands.  It's absolutely unacceptable for a receiver.  You need to make most or all of your easy catches, some of your tough catches, and the occasional circus catch.  Ginn does none of these.  Ginn does nothing to help out his quarterback.  You pretty much know that unless it's an uncontested catch, that he's not going to pull it down.

Therefore, whereas you see a single play where he drops the ball with coverage, the rest of us see a guy who never pulls it out.  This is just adding fuel to the fire.

[CF DolFan]

I think my shame is going to Dan Henning for calling a passing play on 3rd and 7 inside 2 minutes.  I think you have to run the ball and try to get the first down, and if not you make them burn the last timeout and punt it.  Fields has been punting lights out 60+ most of the day.  Make the 1-win Bucs go 70+ yards with no timeouts inside 2 minutes.  Instead, they call a passing play and give the ball away at their own 30.  Henne had no business throwing the ball on that play.

I disagree.  We should have thrown then and Henne made a mistake ... big deal. Fortunately he got the opportinity to fix it and came through. I bet he learned something there that he wouldn't have if we had run it so whether or not Henne completed the pass or not I think Henning made the right call. In the end Henne has to be able to make mistakes if he is going to grow as a QB. If not we "retard" (per Mad Dog Mandich)  his progression and that's what we have been doing. He has to be allowed to fail.

I would give Dan SOTG for his earlier calls. We should have put them away instead of playing safe. I hate the option with White but even more the timing of it. I hate that we didn't try the end zone on one play before half when we had a timeout left. I hate that we ran it instead of throwing on third and long in the second half.  I hate that we continue to try trick plays week end and week out. I ws very frustrated with him but the Henne INT certainly wsn't it.

[Phishfan]

 I hate the option with White but even more the timing of it. I hate that we didn't try the end zone on one play before half when we had a timeout left.

Both of these stuck out in my mind. I was wondering if anyone was going to bring up not going to the end  zone before halftime. I hated that call.

[fyo]

I would give Dan SOTG for his earlier calls. We should have put them away instead of playing safe.

I'm SHOCKED at Henning's play-calling this season. It's atrocious. You'd think he was a rookie coordinator and not a guy with 6 years of NFL head coaching experience, in addition to God knows how many years of coordinator experience. I don't know if it's old age or what, but he has a strong tendency to go ULTRA conservative at the worst moments -- and way, way too often. Dance with the one that brung ya, as the saying goes; if the offense has been doing great doing one thing, why switch and go ultra conservative?

[bsfins]

Hijack, but Is it just me,but Dan Henning, David Lee,and the rest of the offensive brain trust seem to remind me of the Brain trust of the Oakland Raiders under Art Shell...OLD...

Hijack Number two....Is it me, but does Pat White really seem like a Parcells guy? I kind of thought He'd think,Pat White...Hmmm Quincy Carter...Nahhh I'll pass...
Hijack 2a...The Pat White" Pistol" offense,doesn't seem to work IMO,He hasn't done anything to make a defensive coordinator,plan against...
Hijack 2b With all this being said,are we doing this pistol offense with Pat White,because we really don't have a scatback,speed guy? I mean I'd really rather drafted Lesean Mccoy,or Glen Coffee if that's the case....

Yeah,umm..Dan Henning would get my vote....

[Doc-phin]

I would also like to mention Sean Smith.  He obviously got smoked by a nobody on that TD pass, but he also had to get bailed out by other defenders on a few plays.  On one play, he stood there and criticised someone for making a play on his receiver because he missed an opportunity to make a pick.  If you watch that play, Smith sits and waits for the ball to get there.  If you want to make a play on a ball, go make it and don't just sit and hope it comes to you.  Rookie stuff.

With that said, any way you want to divvy up criticism between Henne, Ginn and Sparano's conservative approach I would be supportive.

[dolphins4life]

The time management at the end raises cause for concern.

Stupid to call the TO with 14 seconds left.

Hopefully one of the staff alerted Sparano about this. 

[Phishfan]

The time management at the end raises cause for concern.

Stupid to call the TO with 14 seconds left.

Hopefully one of the staff alerted Sparano about this. 

That was done in case there was a bad snap or something. Fall on the ball and you still get a second chance to kick the game winner.

[dolphins4life]

^^^^^

Still 14 seconds is too much. 5 or 7 seconds is enough time for that

[StL FinFan]

It takes at least 5 seconds for a FG attempt.  If they called TO with 5-7 seconds left, they would not have had any time left in case of a bad snap.

[dolphins4life]

^^^

That's with the time of the flight of the ball

For a bad snap, you just have to spike it.  That shouldn't take five seconds

[Dave Gray]

^^^

That's with the time of the flight of the ball

For a bad snap, you just have to spike it.  That shouldn't take five seconds

That's assuming you catch it.  If it's a all on the ball type situation, the game is over.