Full-Back Contingency Plan?

[Pappy13]

Why not instead send in 10 blockers and your punt return man line up at QB.  Have him run around in the back field for 10 seconds?  Even if he retreats all the way to the end zone you still win by 1.  "Just hold on to the ball with both hands and what ever you do don't fumble"

You could do that too, in fact I've seen them do this when they are near their own goal line and in fact they purposely run out of the endzone when someone gets close which allows them to then punt the ball from the 35.  I guess the reasoning being that it's safer to just throw the ball deep down the field once you feel pressure.  The ball is going to be in the air a good 2 or 3 seconds if you have a decent QB.

[Phishfan]

My thinking was with Hoodie. Putting the ball in the air, or trying to, just seems so dangerous to me. I don't like it personally.

Also the need for having a receiver close enough for it to not be considered grounding also worries me. You can't just chuck it to nowhere.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

My thinking was with Hoodie. Putting the ball in the air, or trying to, just seems so dangerous to me. I don't like it personally.

Might also depend who my personal is.

If the running back is BenJarvus Green-Ellis and the QB is Tom Brady I might  go the air route.

If my running back was Ricky Williams and the QB was Chad Henne I would absolutely do the run around the  backfield. 

[Pappy13]

The problem with running around is that you're GOING to get tackled and we all know that anything can happen when you get tackled.  Even if you manage to run out the clock you then have to get down or out of bounds before someone can hit you or strip you.  Putting the ball in the air is safe as long as you get it into the air before you get hit and of course that no one actually catches it.  The QB would be instructed to throw the ball along the sideline, preferably just slightly out of bounds and the WR would be instructed to bat the ball down if needs be, not catch it so the only real danger is just making sure you get the throw off.  You would max protect and probably roll out to take one side of the pass rush totally out of the picture and eat up a few more seconds on the clock and if things go really bad at the worst just run out of bounds, don't take the chance of getting hit and fumbling.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

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Not at all.  As long as I can eat up all 10 seconds.  Once time runs out all I need to do is take a knee.  And If am still worried about being stripped in the knee postion, lie on the ground with the ball under me.  Or if up by 3 (as opposed to up by 1 or 2) Run all the way to the end zone and and then run out the back of the end zone if anyone gets close.  But which I choose would depend on field position and my players.  Who do I trust more my QB or runningback not to make a mistake. 

[Pappy13]

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Not at all.  As long as I can eat up all 10 seconds.

Ok, but you have to run around for 3 or more seconds and avoid getting hit whereas all a QB has to do is throw the ball downfield.  Much easier on the QB in my opinion.  Plus, what if someone actually does just get lucky and tackles you before time runs out?  You've lost what 10, 20 yards or more in field position and now they have the ball for 1 last play.  If you pass it and don't happen to run out the clock it's just an incomplete pass and you haven't lost any field position.

I didn't come up with the play, I just said they practiced it.  Talk to Sparano if you don't like the play.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Ok, but you have to run around for 3 or more seconds and avoid getting hit whereas all a QB has to do is throw the ball downfield.  Much easier on the QB in my opinion.

I didn't come up with the play, I just said they practiced it.  Talk to Sparano if you don't like the play.

Why?  I have a vested interest in the Dolphins running bad plays and will laugh my ass off if the Dolphins are up by three with 10 seconds on the clock and Henne throws a pick 6 to a Patriots cornerback. 

Heck, I hope he is practicing the 65 Power-Up. 

[badger6]

Just give it to Ricky. Shit it ain't that hard to figure out !!!!

[Landshark]

My thinking was with Hoodie. Putting the ball in the air, or trying to, just seems so dangerous to me. I don't like it personally.

Also the need for having a receiver close enough for it to not be considered grounding also worries me. You can't just chuck it to nowhere.

Yes you can.  It isn't grounding if the QB is outside the pocket.  Have him scramble towards a sideline of his choice, then chuck it up in the air like on the Hail Flutie play.  Except the receivers will be looking to bat it down.

[Phishfan]

Yes, I forgot about the outside the pocket rule.

[Brian Fein]

A receiver in the area brings a defender, and potential for a pick.  The receivers should all be running 10-yard routes and shorter, so he can launch it over everyone's head, and not risk a safety playing center field.

[Pappy13]

A receiver in the area brings a defender, and potential for a pick.  The receivers should all be running 10-yard routes and shorter, so he can launch it over everyone's head, and not risk a safety playing center field.

Throwing it just slightly out of bounds will mitigate that risk as well.  You don't want to throw it too far out of bounds and have the clock stopped too early, but you do want it to land out of bounds so no one can catch it or intercept it.

If you can throw it out of the endzone that would work too.

[Brian Fein]

How about just throwing it 10 yards on a slant and getting the first down?

[Pappy13]

How about just throwing it 10 yards on a slant and getting the first down?

And risk getting the route jumped for a pick 6?  I don't think so.  I'd be tempted to just punt and hope my punt team can prevent a blocked punt and my punter can punt it out of bounds or out of the endzone of something where there's no return.

[Brian Fein]

Every play you come up with has a risk of getting returned for 6.  At least try to win, rather than trying not to lose.  Go for the first down, find some slow-developing play like an end-around, or reverse, and try to get 10 yards.