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« on: October 18, 2010, 01:01:00 pm »

I hope that most of you are not thinking Super Bowl with your most recent win in overtime against the packers. I would consider yourselves VERY lucky to be 3-2 at this point in time. The Dolphins had several instances of poor clock / game management and miscommunication that could have very easily resulted in a loss yesterday.

A win is a win, yes, but the Dolphins shouldn't count on winning many more games if that type of game-management and decision making process is how they plan on proceeding from here on out. This is three road games now where one more avoidable mistake may have cost them the game. Against Buffalo, against the Vikings, and yesterday against the Packers, there were many head-scratching, stupid decisions by both players and coaches that could have resulted in losses.

There are still issues on special teams and on coverage that clearly have not been practiced or addressed. There are still poor offensive decisions that are being made that will cost the Dolphins the game at some point or another in the season. But finally, the play calling, time-out calling, and situational decisions are atrocious. Why do you kneel-down with :04 left in a tie game with the ball at midfield? Why not throw it up as a jump ball? The defense is going to knock it down, so you have the possibility of a miracle catch, or a stupid pass-interference penalty as it happened I believe in another game this week on a late bomb. They played it safe and should have paid the price, but luckily their defensive front is playing very well, keeping them alive in these destined-to-lose games.

I think these errors are magnified 100x in divisional games - they could have lost to the Bills very easily, and got crushed by the Jets and the Patriots. They can go and beat Green Bay and Minnesota all they want to - you're not making the playoffs by losing to your two toughest divisional opponents.

If the Dolphins finish the year at 8-8, I would consider that lucky.
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 01:19:49 pm »

As a Giants fan you more than most should know a lucky win counts just as much as any other type of win. 
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 01:35:26 pm »

Well I hope we don't have to play the Vikings, Jets, Patriots and Packers back to back to back to back again....um yeah we don't.  Going 2 and 2 against that group is about as much as you can ask for.  The schedule gets easier from here on out.  Mind you I'm not claiming that the Steelers, Ravens, Jets or Patriots are easier games, but on the whole if you take the rest of the schedule and compare it to the first 5 games, it gets easier.  We can lose all 4 of those games and still end up 10-6 if we beat the teams we should beat.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2010, 02:03:13 pm »

As a Giants fan you more than most should know a lucky win counts just as much as any other type of win. 

You know, shame on me for this response. Because I gave this board's membership the benefit of the doubt and knew that there wasn't going to be a "Giants" reference, and left out a "and please don't leave Giants references" editorial at the end of it.

But of course in every crowd there's always a jackass.

So, for the 1,000th time, if you want to talk shit about the Giants, do it in the other forum and I'll respond in kind. Agree or disagree with this assessment of the Dolphins? Then, you're in the right place. I don't give game balls to Eli Manning or shame of the games to the stupid rookie punter we now have on those dolphin-oriented threads - so don't put Giants / Jets / Packers / Fighting Irish shit on a Dolphins thread. Please.
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2010, 02:11:42 pm »

1. You don't get to dictate how people respond.  You could have added it added your demand that there not be Giants references, but nobody has to follow it.

2.  My comment wasn't about the Giants per se, it was about the fact in the NFL a lucky win is still a win, and a unlucky loss is still a loss. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 02:15:08 pm »

You know, shame on me for this response. Because I gave this board's membership the benefit of the doubt and knew that there wasn't going to be a "Giants" reference, and left out a "and please don't leave Giants references" editorial at the end of it.

But of course in every crowd there's always a jackass.

So, for the 1,000th time, if you want to talk shit about the Giants, do it in the other forum and I'll respond in kind.


^^^ Translation:  Joe knows that there isn't nearly enough interest in the Giants' issues among TDMMC members to actually start a separate thread for them in the NFL section, so if he can browbeat ya into not mentioning that sort of thing when his angst takes over the keyboard in Dolphinsland, chances are good that he'll never have to face his own posting inequities. Wink


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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 02:24:08 pm »


^^^ Translation:  Joe knows that there isn't nearly enough interest in the Giants' issues among TDMMC members to actually start a separate thread for them in the NFL section, so if he can browbeat ya into not mentioning that sort of thing when his angst takes over the keyboard in Dolphinsland, chances are good that he'll never have to face his own posting inequities. Wink

It is a bad year to be a Giants fan.  The stadium no longer has the team's name and for the first time since man landed on the moon, more people in NYC care about the Jets than the Giants. 
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2010, 04:47:59 pm »

I hope that most of you are not thinking Super Bowl with your most recent win in overtime against the packers. I would consider yourselves VERY lucky to be 3-2 at this point in time.
I don't consider 2 blocked punts and a blocked FG for a touchdown "lucky."  But that's me.

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This is three road games now where one more avoidable mistake may have cost them the game.
That's funny, because on two of those three road games, I'd say that with a few less "avoidable mistakes" (blown coverage against BUF, fumbles deep in our own territory by Ricky and Ronnie), we win those games comfortably.

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There are still issues on special teams and on coverage that clearly have not been practiced or addressed.
Stop, too many details!  Just give me the broad strokes.

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But finally, the play calling, time-out calling, and situational decisions are atrocious. Why do you kneel-down with :04 left in a tie game with the ball at midfield?
Ask Wade Phillips and the Cowboys that question.

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They played it safe and should have paid the price, but luckily their defensive front is playing very well, keeping them alive in these destined-to-lose games.
Yes, "luckily" our defense played well.  This would be as opposed to getting a win on a last second hail mary, which is not-at-all lucky...?
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2010, 05:11:26 pm »


Come on, Spider...you know as well as I do that anything that doesn't support Joe's point gets filed under "blind luck," and anything that does goes under "empirical proof."

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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2010, 06:56:48 pm »

You know, shame on me for this response. Because I gave this board's membership the benefit of the doubt and knew that there wasn't going to be a "Giants" reference, and left out a "and please don't leave Giants references" editorial at the end of it.

But of course in every crowd there's always a jackass.

So, for the 1,000th time, if you want to talk shit about the Giants, do it in the other forum and I'll respond in kind. Agree or disagree with this assessment of the Dolphins? Then, you're in the right place. I don't give game balls to Eli Manning or shame of the games to the stupid rookie punter we now have on those dolphin-oriented threads - so don't put Giants / Jets / Packers / Fighting Irish shit on a Dolphins thread. Please.

Why would we waste the effort to talk shit about the Giants? There are better things to do in life than be an incessant internet troll, I would encourage you and Tepop to discover them.
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2010, 09:40:40 am »

Why would we waste the effort to talk shit about the Giants? There are better things to do in life than be an incessant internet troll, I would encourage you and Tepop to discover them.

Meanwhile, a hundred miles away, people hear a sudden sound and think "that sounds like someone just got bitchslapped."

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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2010, 11:55:40 pm »

the next three games, Cin, Pitt and Bal as well as late matchups at the Jets and NE will determine the outcome of our season and tell us if we have any business talking playoffs this year. 
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2010, 10:44:34 am »

Green Bay was "lucky" to have tied the game up in the 4th quarter if you ask me.  They had 2 4th down conversions if I'm not mistaken, one to keep the drive alive where Rogers had to run all over the field before finding an open receiver and one where he sneaks the ball in from the 1 yard line.
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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2010, 11:06:49 am »

one to keep the drive alive where Rogers had to run all over the field before finding an open receiver

That was a 3rd and 7 play.
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2010, 11:12:21 am »

That was a 3rd and 7 play.
Ah, you're absolutely correct.  The 4th down play was later in the drive where Miami failed to cover Greg Jennings.  They did however convert 2 4th down plays on that drive.
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