Why I don't think Cowher is a good fit in Miami.

[Dave Gray]

Bill Cowher is ready to come back and we're on his short list.  I like Cowher as a coach and I wouldn't be UPSET if we got him.  Of the "names" out there, he's the one I like the best.  However, I don't think it's a good long term fit for us.

1) I want a legacy coach.  I want a guy who's going to be here for 15 years.  Cowher, like JJ, like Parcells, is going to be here for 5 years and then hand off the franchise, more than likely.

2) We have QB problems.  Maybe it's personnel, maybe not, but if we bring in a new coach, he will be paired with a new QB.  Cowher isn't exactly the best when it comes to QBs.  How many bums did he coach over the years?

3) Cowher is a lot like Sparano (a win ugly kind of coach).  I think that a lot of the things that I'm frustrated with in regards to our current team, like punting on 4th and short, playing conservatively, etc will continue with Cowher.

[MikeO]

Comparing Sparano to Cowher is like comparing a go-cart to a Lincoln Town Car

Cowher is a proven winner.

[Diehard_Dolfan]

Thing is if you can win in Pittsburgh chances are you can win almost anywhere...  I say that because the Steelers have always been fickle with paying their players.  So turnover is always high in Pittsburgh.  I'm not sure about Cowher but before burning out he was in Pittsburgh for the long haul... maybe his second stop might be the same type of stop?

[Spider-Dan]

Thing is if you can win in Pittsburgh chances are you can win almost anywhere...

Pittsburgh is arguably the most successful franchise in the history of the NFL, and their success both predates Cowher and continues without him.

The Rooneys are the engine behind the Steelers.  Don't get it twisted.

[Diehard_Dolfan]

Pittsburgh is arguably the most successful franchise in the history of the NFL, and their success both predates Cowher and continues without him.

The Rooneys are the engine behind the Steelers.  Don't get it twisted.

Never said they weren't successful... I was speaking about how it's known NFL wide they are not big on paying big player salaries.  Of course this has seem to change a bit over that last few yrs too!

What I was really pointing out was if, Cowher can win with a fickle owner he should be able to do much more with a generous one...

[CF DolFan]

How many people calling for Cowher on this board would have kept him through years 7, 8, and 9 of Pitt? These were 5 years before his lone Super Bowl win of 2005. 

1998   7-9         3rd in AFC Central
1999   6-10       4th in AFC Central
2000    9-7        3rd in AFC Central

Edited to add ... I agree with all three of Dave's points with my biggest peeve is playing the same offensive football we have been playing since Jimmy took over.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Never said they weren't successful... I was speaking about how it's known NFL wide they are not big on paying big player salaries.  Of course this has seem to change a bit over that last few yrs too!

What I was really pointing out was if, Cowher can win with a fickle owner he should be able to do much more with a generous one...

I disagree 100%.  The Steelers aren't Bills cheap (as in spend in total significantly less than the cap allows) they are Patriots cheap (won't spend more money on a player than he is worth, but spend all the money available to balance out the team).

You are saying if you can win a with fiscally responsible team that doesn't waste money on big name hasbeens then you can certainly win with an owner that has no clue about football but is star struck.  Nah....if that was the case then anyone could take the Redskins to the superbowl.

The Steelers have an outstanding system, top to bottom.  Coach is only small piece of their success.  You could almost say that he is "a system coach"  Steelers coach is not the one man show that is Bill Belichick and the NEP.  Which actually is very much to the benefit of the Steelers long term.   When BB retires it will hurt the NEP a lot more than any coach retiring for the Steelers. 

The absolutely best thing you can say about Cowher is the Steelers hired him.  The organization doesn't go about hiring coaches by drawing names out of a hat or grabbing the newest shinny star.  If Cowher wasn't an outstanding fit for the Steelers they would not have hired him.  That is a pretty strong endorsement, they are excellent talent evaluators.  But just cause he was the prefect fit for the Steelers doesn't mean he is the perfect fit for the Dolphins. 

[MaineDolFan]

If Miami were to chase down a coach, sign me up for Gruden.

Lord, please...sign me up for Gruden.

Bring in Chuckie.  For the love of CHRIST.

[Pappy13]

I disagree 100%. 

I'd be a little worried about Cowher in Miami too...if I were a Patriots fan.

[dolfan13]

dave hyde captured it good in his column today...

Let's look how a few are doing today to gain perspective on the problem.

1. Mike Mularkey. He was Nick Saban's whipping boy. People ripped him. He's at 12-2 Atlanta now, has Matt Ryan at quarterback and - presto! - he's overseeing an effective offense. The Falcons are the fifth-best scoring team in the league at 26.4 points a game.

2. Cam Cameron. Yes, he was over his head as coach in 2007. But he also ran the offense that appeared lost. He's running 10-4 Baltimore's offense now. Joe Flacco is his quarterback and suddenly Cameron knows what he's doing. The Ravens are the 12th-best scoring offense, are playoff-bound and Flacco is developing nicely.

3. Chan Gailey. Dave Wannstedt's offensive coordinator, if you care to remember. And what a conservative offense that was. But now he's Buffalo's coach, oversees the Bills offense and has found a possible franchise quarterback in Ryan Fitzpatrick as the Dolphins found out Sunday. Fitzpatrick wasn't made quarterback until the third game this year. The Bills started 0-8. But in the second half of this year, the Bills are 4-2 as Fitzpatrick has 23 TDs against 12 interceptions.

bring in whomever coach savior you want, and you still have the same shit at qb. wanna turn this team into a contender, whomever is coach needs to find a damn starting caliber nfl qb.

no one wants another freaking dan marino. a freaking ryan fitzpatrick will do at this point.

[MaineDolFan]

no one wants another freaking dan marino. a freaking ryan fitzpatrick will do at this point.

I'm not convinced Fitzy is any better than Henne.  I think the coaching staff puts Fitz into a better position to succeed.

Now, that said, I am officially off the Henne wagon.  The guy sucks.  But I think a lot of his sucking is a direct line to the coaching staff.

[dolfan13]

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Now, that said, I am officially off the Henne wagon.  The guy sucks.  But I think a lot of his sucking is a direct line to the coaching staff.

just my crappy opinion, but what henne sucks at just isn't coachable. he sucks at decision making... the final drive puts an exclamation point on that. 40 seconds, no timeouts, instead of throwing it away, you throw it short to a receiver that can't get out of bounds???

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I'd be a little worried about Cowher in Miami too...if I were a Patriots fan.

Not worried.  I wasn't disagreeing that Cowher is a good coach. 

I was disagreeing with the notion that it would be harder to be successful in an organization that is fiscally conservative and smart, than one that wastes money on FA hasbeen stars.

[Pappy13]

^^ Agreed, just giving you a hard time.

[Spider-Dan]

I'm not so sure that Cowher's record isn't a product of the system in Pittsburgh.  It's obvious that the ownership there is a huge part of their success.