Stephen Ross is the new Al Davis

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Ok, fine.  Rule #1 can be that your GM/Coach can't trade away future draft picks without the consent of the owner, but other than that he should stay out of the draft room.  I don't want his input on who to draft at #15.  You hired a coach/GM for that.  Let them do their job.  This is where Jerry Jones oversteps his bounds in my opinion.

I agree with you an owner should not be providing input on who to draft. 

What he should be doing is taking notes.  So three years later he knows which of his employees was advocating trading up to take Vern Gholston and which of his employees was advocating using a late round draft pick on Danny Woodhead.  And then promote or fire appropriately. 

[Pappy13]

I agree with you an owner should not be providing input on who to draft. 

What he should be doing is taking notes.  So three years later he knows which of his employees was advocating trading up to take Vern Gholston and which of his employees was advocating using a late round draft pick on Danny Woodhead.  And then promote or fire appropriately. 

100% agree.

[CF DolFan]

I disagree. If a coach is going to make a Ricky Williams type deal on draft day then he should step in immediately!! God love Ditka but that was just plain crazy!!! 

[Pappy13]

I disagree. If a coach is going to make a Ricky Williams type deal on draft day then he should step in immediately!! God love Ditka but that was just plain crazy!!! 

Congratulations you just got Jerry Jones as your owner.  In my opinion (and a lot of others in the Dallas media), one of the reasons the Cowboys have struggled in recent years is because not many head coaching candidates want to work for Jerry.  They know they will be questioned every step of the way by the owner and might even have to fight with the owner on draft day to get the guys they want to get.  Same thing with Free Agents and coaches.

Guys like Bill Cowher and Jon Gruden wouldn't even consider coaching for Jerry and Jerry knows it.  How in the world he convinced Parcells to do it is beyond me, but Parcells didn't last long and in the end wanted out of Dallas mostly because of Jerry Jones signing Terrell Owens despite Parcells not wanting him.

Jerry even recognizes the problem and recently stated that he was giving full control of personel to head coach Jason Garrett...not that anyone in Texas really believes him.

[tits muldoon]

It really comes down to execution more so than an " aggressive approach". Does anyone really think a new o.c. is going to make Henne (meathead) much better? These errant throws 10-15 yds. over peoples heads are not "throw aways" as some have suggested he just has no touch! Rockets down the middle and poorly timed check downs all hes got. As for Mr. Ross what a moron obfuscation of an already frayed fan base genius!  

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Ok, fine.  Rule #1 can be that your GM/Coach can't trade away future draft picks without the consent of the owner, but other than that he should stay out of the draft room.  I don't want his input on who to draft at #15.  You hired a coach/GM for that.  Let them do their job.  This is where Jerry Jones oversteps his bounds in my opinion.

Congratulations you just got Jerry Jones as your owner.  In my opinion (and a lot of others in the Dallas media), one of the reasons the Cowboys have struggled in recent years is because not many head coaching candidates want to work for Jerry.  They know they will be questioned every step of the way by the owner and might even have to fight with the owner on draft day to get the guys they want to get.  Same thing with Free Agents and coaches.

Guys like Bill Cowher and Jon Gruden wouldn't even consider coaching for Jerry and Jerry knows it.  How in the world he convinced Parcells to do it is beyond me, but Parcells didn't last long and in the end wanted out of Dallas mostly because of Jerry Jones signing Terrell Owens despite Parcells not wanting him.

Jerry even recognizes the problem and recently stated that he was giving full control of personel to head coach Jason Garrett...not that anyone in Texas really believes him.

You just contradicted yourself. 

You agreed with me that owners have a right an obligation to veto trading away next years 1st and 3rd round pick.  And then claimed it would be meddling to do so. 

[Pappy13]

You just contradicted yourself. 

You agreed with me that owners have a right an obligation to veto trading away next years 1st and 3rd round pick.  And then claimed it would be meddling to do so. 

Ditka didn't trade away future picks, he traded away current year draft picks.  I can see an owner wanting to have veto power on trading away FUTURE draft picks, because the current GM/Head coach might not be there, but I see NO reason for him to have ANY say in current draft picks.  Those ONLY effect the current GM/Head coach.  For those all he should do is take notes as mentioned earlier.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Ditka didn't trade away future picks, he traded away current year draft picks.  I can see an owner wanting to have veto power on trading away FUTURE draft picks.  I see NO reason for him to have ANY say in current draft picks.

He traded away ALL the current picks plus a 1st and 3rd for the following year. 

[Pappy13]

He traded away ALL the current picks plus a 1st and 3rd for the following year. 

In that case I don't have a problem with Owner vetoing that.  All current picks are left up to the current GM/Head coach to do with them as they want.  I was not aware that Ditka used the next year's picks as well.

[Phishfan]

Ditka didn't trade away future picks, he traded away current year draft picks.  I can see an owner wanting to have veto power on trading away FUTURE draft picks, because the current GM/Head coach might not be there, but I see NO reason for him to have ANY say in current draft picks.  Those ONLY effect the current GM/Head coach.  For those all he should do is take notes as mentioned earlier.

Seriously? You think drafting only one player this year has no effect on the team in the future? That is just crazy.

[Pappy13]

Seriously? You think drafting only one player this year has no effect on the team in the future? That is just crazy.

Yeah, that was poorly worded.  Of course everything that the current GM/Head Coach does effects the future of the team.  I guess what I was saying is that it doesn't effect the next GM/Head Coaches draft whereas trading away draft choices would.

[BigDaddyFin]

I don't see anything wrong with what Ross said.  You need a more modern offense (the hurry up/no-huddle is one of a number of possibilities) to go with what became one of the better defenses in football last year. 

If by good old days he's referring to when we used to win games, then yeah I want to go back to that too.  A little tradition infusion into this bunch wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

Like I said this team needs an identity.  We've got a reputation for being physical but also for crappy offense.  A few cosmetic changes may go a long way there.