Please, STFU about the Quarterback position

[MikeO]

So Mike-O, since you know everything..what do you suggest Miami does about their "GLARING HOLE" at the QB spot?

Make a move and improve the position. Either draft one at 15 and let him play, trade up and get one higher in the draft.  Trade for a Carson Palmer/McNabb etc.. as a 1 or 2-year stop gap (ie Pennington) and let the one you draft  sit and learn. Or just go with a stop-gap for this year and let Henne sit behind them and maybe he straightens out or  draft a QB next year since you would still have Palmer/McNabb on board. Not that difficult. Improve the position!!

WHATEVER they do you  they can't go into a the upcoming season with Henne/Thigpen as your 1-2 punch at QB. If you do then you are staring at 4-12 or worse.

[MikeO]

So...Syracuse basketball fans aren't passionate about their college hoops because they're from the North? Dallas Cowboys fans aren't passionate about their NFL team because they're from the South?

Do you have some sort of national demarcation line for the "passionate/non-passionate" sections of the country as it pertains to college and pro sports? Because, frankly, your whole statement smells like a load of horseshit to me.  Maybe it's because I'm from the Northeast South-Central part of Palm Beach County, where we're passionate about the truth.

Talk about spinning what I said. I never said "weren't passionate" I said not as passionate. There is passion there. Its dfferent levels of passion. Feel free to disagree, its just my opinion.

You must have some miserable life, all you do is come here and attack attack attack and call names. My god how old are you 12?

[masterfins]

Back to the original thread topic, I agree with the OP, I do not think that changing the QB position is the most improtatnt thing to do this off season.  Yes, I would like an upgrade at that position, who woudn't rather have a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, it's just not the most important thing THIS YEAR in my opinion.  Secondly, I'm tired of hearing people say you can "patch" the RB position.  If that were so easy to do don't you think Miami would have been in a couple SuperBowls when they had arguably the best QB ever on their roster in Dan Marino??  I mean really, "patch" the second most important position on a team??  Do you have any memory of the 80's and 90's??

[Phishfan]

Back to the original thread topic, I agree with the OP, I do not think that changing the QB position is the most improtatnt thing to do this off season.  Yes, I would like an upgrade at that position, who woudn't rather have a Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, it's just not the most important thing THIS YEAR in my opinion.  Secondly, I'm tired of hearing people say you can "patch" the RB position.  If that were so easy to do don't you think Miami would have been in a couple SuperBowls when they had arguably the best QB ever on their roster in Dan Marino??  I mean really, "patch" the second most important position on a team??  Do you have any memory of the 80's and 90's??

Here is part of the rub though. People seem to forget how little Marino allowed the team to run during his tenure. It is common knowledge that Marino would call off run plays. It is hard to imagine what the running game could have been because it was nonexistent in play calling as much as it was in performance.

[MikeO]

I agree with the OP, I do not think that changing the QB position is the most improtatnt thing to do this off season. 

Then you haven't been watching NFL football the past decade or so. The game has changed so much. The rules are set up for PASSING the football, not running. The exact opposite of the 80's and 90's which is why your analogy makes zero sense!!! You can't win in this league without a quality if not top flight QB!!! Look at the teams that go deep in the playoffs and win super bowls.

Pitt, Saints, Colts, Packers, Pats, Jets, Ravens, Giants, Chargers....whats the one thing they all have in commen!! GREAT QUARTERBACK PLAY!!!

No team wins anymore with sub-par QB's. You might sneak into the playoffs. Hell even win a game like Seattle did last year. But after that your done.

The Packers won a Super Bowl with a RB they picked up off the street. You can find o-linemen who can play right away in the late rounds of drafts or undrafted. Same with WR. If you don't put all your time, focus, energy, and resources into the QB position though, you will be a losing franchise for a long time!!

The #1, 2, 3, and 4 needs for the Fins this year is QB! Filling in the rest of the holes becomes a whole hell of a lot easier once you settle your QB position! Period! End of debate!

[Pappy13]

People seem to forget how little Marino allowed the team to run during his tenure. It is common knowledge that Marino would call off run plays.

LOL. It's called audibling. Yes Marino was allowed to do it. No, I never once heard Don Shula complain about it.

It's also common knowledge that Marino also audibled TO running plays.

[Sunstroke]

You must have some miserable life, all you do is come here and attack attack attack and call names. My god how old are you 12?

This is called "transference." If you ever see a therapist, I'm sure they'll explain it to you in more detail. Just try to remember who gave you the accurate diagnosis first.

Also...feel free to go back to my original post in this thread and note my comments about the "constant complainers" of the world.

[MikeO]

This is called "transference." If you ever see a therapist, I'm sure they'll explain it to you in more detail. Just try to remember who gave you the accurate diagnosis first.

Also...feel free to go back to my original post in this thread and note my comments about the "constant complainers" of the world.

Derailing another thread, what you do best!  Who's complaining? Not me!

Look in the mirror sunshine!

[Tenshot13]

Derailing another thread, what you do best!  Who's complaining? Not me!

Look in the mirror sunshine!

It's Sunstroke not sunshine.

[MikeO]

It's Sunstroke not sunshine.

It doesn't matter what his name is!

[Spider-Dan]

Pitt, Saints, Colts, Packers, Pats, Jets, Ravens, Giants, Chargers....whats the one thing they all have in commen!! GREAT QUARTERBACK PLAY!!!

No team wins anymore with sub-par QB's.

You seem to have just refuted your own theory.  If Mark Sanchez's career 70.2 QB rating (29 TD/33 INT) qualifies as "GREAT QUARTERBACK PLAY" then Henne is just what we need.

[Brian Fein]

Period! End of debate!

This is why people have a hard time discussing with you.  You are always right.  Like an encyclopedia.  No one else gets to have a say, because you are always right.

Try listening, reply with opinions.  "End of debate" is not a point of discussion, its a lack of further points.

[Sunstroke]

This is why people have a hard time discussing with you.  You are always right.  Like an encyclopedia.  No one else gets to have a say, because you are always right.

Try listening, reply with opinions.  "End of debate" is not a point of discussion, its a lack of further points.

Nah, the problem can't be MikeO, it has to be everyone else...

You seem to have just refuted your own theory.  If Mark Sanchez's career 70.2 QB rating (29 TD/33 INT) qualifies as "GREAT QUARTERBACK PLAY" then Henne is just what we need.

I'd argue (and always have) that Sanchez is a better QB than Henne. Not that The Dirty One is a great QB or anything, but I think he's better than Henne.  I still think Henne has the ability to be a decent NFL starting QB, but I've gotten to the point where I don't see any impressive upside to his game. I think he can develop into an average QB, or he can stay a notch below average...but neither is an attractive long-term plan for the most important position on the field.

[masterfins]

Pitt, Saints, Colts, Packers, Pats, Jets, Ravens, Giants, Chargers....whats the one thing they all have in commen!! GREAT QUARTERBACK PLAY!!!

Ummm, perhaps a solid offensive line, perhaps better than average offensive coordinator's and better than average head coach, perhaps very good defenses, and yes lcuk does come into play in some situations.  You seem to think if we had Tom Brady or Peyton Manning that the Dolphins could magically become a super Bowl Team, or that you build a team from the Top Down.  I disagree, I think you build a team from the bottom up (meaning you start with the offensive and defensive lines).  That is what Pittsburgh and other great teams have done.  BTW the Giants, Jets, and Ravens don't have GREAT Quarterback play.  If those teams had to rely on their QB's to win games they would be in last place.

[masterfins]

Here is part of the rub though. People seem to forget how little Marino allowed the team to run during his tenure. It is common knowledge that Marino would call off run plays. It is hard to imagine what the running game could have been because it was nonexistent in play calling as much as it was in performance.

This is my point, having a great QB does not guarantee playoff or Super Bowl wins.  To expand upon your point, Marino had a great passing blocking offensive line, but they were not great at run blocking.  The other unknow question also is did Marino audible away from running plays because he thought the running game stunk?? I like to think it was just because he had so much confidence in himself and wanted the ball in his hands, which is common among great athletes. We'll never know.