Blue jays and Marlins blockbuster trade

[Sunstroke]

Like I mentioned in my previous post, I really love Bonifacio. He and Josh are definitely my two favorite Marlins, and now both are gone.

[EDGECRUSHER]

The Marlins franchise has a stance that they don't give out no trade clauses. I am fine with that.

The Marlins gave handshake no trade deals to Reyes and Buerhle because neither wanted to leave Miami. They traded them anyway. I am not fine with that.

Christ, they just lied to these guys and traded them from Miami beaches to a different country. Hard to be a bigger douchebag than that.

[SportsChick]

Free agents are not coming to Miami - It's being said among agents and players. Why sign here when the chance they'll be traded in a year is so high.

[Spider-Dan]

With the way the Marlins and Dolphins are going, the Heat players must be swimming in Miami booty.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Free agents are not coming to Miami - It's being said among agents and players. Why sign here when the chance they'll be traded in a year is so high.

Players will always go to the highest bidder. They will just ask for that no trade in writing next time. If MLB had a team at the North Pole, Scott Boras would convince his clients to sign there if the deal was 8 years/$320 Million. The players would then lie and say they went there for the school system and how Santa Claus personally recruited them and they felt a community spirit with the elves.

[SportsChick]

Thats the problem. The Marlins refuse to include no-trade clauses

[Brian Fein]

^^ of course because then they wouldn't be able to blow up the team every season.  That's why the Marlins front office blows.

[MaineDolFan]

Maine, isn't there a value to Buehrle's ability to just eat up innings?  The guy is a reliable workhorse.  Not a star, perhaps, but valuable.

Yes, a lot of value.  I wasn't trying to say he doesn't hold value.  On the open market he simply wouldn't hold his present value for the amount his signed is all I meant.  200+ each year, under 4 ERA, lefty.  He is a solid 3.  I'm not hating on the guy at all, I would take him on Boston's staff every day of the week.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Thats the problem. The Marlins refuse to include no-trade clauses

And now the players know that the word of the owners and personnel mean squat, so they would be less likely to sign with them now if all money being relatively equal.

No trade clauses used to be because players wanted to stay where they signed, but now they are just an instrument an agent uses for power, same as the opt out clause. So, I am fine with a team having a policy not to give them out. CC Sabathia swore up and down that he would only use his opt out clause if he hated living in NY, since he is a California guy. Well, he opted out.....only to re-sign with NY so he could get more years at big money. It was a dick move, but I don't look at my favorite athletes to be role models. It's nice when they are, but it doesn't bother me when they aren't.

I wish Roethlisberger was a rapist in a Dolphins uniform. Then we'd have some championships.

[MaineDolFan]

I don't agree with the Marlins doing what they did.  However, I will say this:

GET IT IN WRITING.  It's like the line from Jerry MaGuire.  "I'm still kind of moved by your 'my word is stronger than oak' thing..."

Reyes and company saw the dollars and chased the dollars.  They knew the Marlins wouldn't do a no trade on paper.  They took a chance.  They had a chance to say "you know what?  Screw you.  Want me, put the damn no trade on paper and we'll talk."  They didn't.  Players pull this same stuff all the time as well while singing Nelly "hey, must be the money!"  At the end of the day, the contracts will be honored.  Just in Toronto.

The Marlins did them semi dirty.  You have to get that in writing.  Otherwise save the crying for people not making $106 million to play short stop.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Exactly, Maine.

I doubt the Marlins would refuse to sign Reyes last year if he demanded a no-trade, because that would've sent a clear message to all present and future free agents that your time in Miami will be short.

[Landshark]

Now I see that the Marlins are shopping Giancarlo Stanton

[EDGECRUSHER]

They don't need to shop Stanton, he has another 4 years of team control. What package of prospects could possibly be better than Stanton himself?

[bsfins]

Can I get a link to where the "Marlins are actually shopping Stantoon" I saw it referenced as a Yahoo article mentioning,"if the Marlins are rebuilding they Ought to trade him,like Dallas did with H.Walker"

JMO Stanton is a building block to build around...

[EDGECRUSHER]

I am sure they have received calls about him and they listened because that's their job and only a fool doesn't listen to an offer, but I don't think they are serious about trading him unless it's for Mike Trout straight up. Despite what GM's say, NO ONE is untouchable.