Snap count: Go-Go vs Go

[Dave Gray]

It was brought to my attention that every time we are going to run the ball, Tanehill says "Go" to receive the ball.  When we're passing, he says "Go Go" to receive the ball.  So, this week, watching the game, we started to pay attention.

Sure enough, 100% of the time, these calls played out accordingly.

This is completely baffling to me and I can't understand any reason why you'd do it.  On the surface, it appears that you're tipping off the defense and killing any chance for play action.  But it's so dumb with such an easy fix that I'm hoping there is some kind of explanation that I can't think of at the moment.

Can someone please help me out?  I mean...If I know this, opposing defenses MUST know this.

[MikeO]

Has been talked about alot recently and players (current and former mostly non-Dolphins players) say its no advantage because there isn't enough time to process it on the field in-game as to what is coming. Everything is moving too fast. It's pretty much a non-issue

[Phishfan]

I never paid attention.

[el diablo]

Has been talked about alot recently and players (current and former mostly non-Dolphins players) say its no advantage because there isn't enough time to process it on the field in-game as to what is coming. Everything is moving too fast. It's pretty much a non-issue

I beg to differ. Going into a game, I can understand it being a non issue. Because you don't think people would keep making the same mistakes. We wonder why they don't make 2nd half adjustments. Things like this explain that. Which again points back to coaching.

[Dave Gray]

I don't see how it can be a non-issue, because you know that you don't have to worry about play-action.  And we're rushing for negative yardage all the time....  Plus, what advantage does it give?  Why even do it?  Why not just say "Go" every time and remove the possibility of an advantage?

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I don't see how it can be a non-issue, because you know that you don't have to worry about play-action.  And we're rushing for negative yardage all the time....  Plus, what advantage does it give?  Why even do it?  Why not just say "Go" every time and remove the possibility of an advantage?

The only adv. it could give is that when they get to the line Tannehill has two possible possible plays and if he says gogo they run 1 and if he says go they run the other.  But there ought be a pattern that ONLY the Dolphins can figure out not every fan and opposing player.

[MikeO]

players who have played the game have said on the field, during a game, that things are moving so fast its impossible to process it and figure it all out in the matter of seconds you have from when you here "go" or "go-go"....so since they played I would have to take there word on that.

[Dave Gray]

^ I've heard the opposite.  On local radio, some former defense player was saying that any tip they got to the play was helpful and could allow them to commit more to one than the other....but again, why do it?  What do you get out of it? 

[Pappy13]

It was brought to my attention that every time we are going to run the ball, Tanehill says "Go" to receive the ball.  When we're passing, he says "Go Go" to receive the ball.  So, this week, watching the game, we started to pay attention.

Sure enough, 100% of the time, these calls played out accordingly.

You must not have paid attention very well because on the very first snap from scrimmage Tannehill does a "GO-GO" from the shotgun and promptly hands off to Lamar Miller. On the second play from scrimmage Tannehill does a "GO" and passes the ball. It's not 100% of the time.

I don't think the problem is the "GO-GO" snap count tipping off the play, I think the problem is that the refs aren't calling offsides on the defense on it properly. Go back and watch the last couple of games and I've counted at least 3 or 4 instances where I was certain that the defense jumped offsides, going on the first "GO" on a "GO-GO" snap and it wasn't called. In fact on a couple of those the defense got such a good jump that the offensive player was beaten badly on the play. It HAS worked on some occasions and has caught the defense off-sides, but I think on just as many occasions offsides hasn't been called and the defensive player has gotten a huge jump. Either the coaches need to send these calls into the NFL make sure that the officials are gonna watch for that BEFORE the game OR they need to get rid of it because it's causing the defensive player to have an advantage. The advantage to it is that the defense can't try to anticipate the snap count because they should never be sure if you're going to snap the ball on the first or second "GO", but there's no advantage to the "GO-GO" if the defense is not called offsides when they jump on the first "GO" and the ball is snapped on the second "GO". In that case it actually works against your offense.

[masterfins]

I'm hoping there is some kind of explanation that I can't think of at the moment.

Can someone please help me out?  I mean...If I know this, opposing defenses MUST know this.

The Dolphins are setting up the week 17 opponents, THATS when they will do the opposite.  Pretty clever sis.   

[EKnight]

Dave seems to have been correct here. Bryant McKinnie pointing out that the Bills knew the cadence.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000304049/article/bryant-mckinnie-bills-knew-ryan-tannehills-cadence

-EK

[MikeO]

When Miami beat 4 out of the 6 AFC Playoff teams it wasn't an issue but its an issue when they lose? Took McKinnie till Week 16 to bring it up? When Miami won the first 3 games in the month of December....it's not an issue then. Only an issue when they lose? Makes no sense. iI's silly.

[EKnight]

Considering the number of sacks he took, it was an issue all year. -EK

[MikeO]

Considering the number of sacks he took, it was an issue all year. -EK

More to do with shitty offensive players than the snap count. Jets didn't have 1 sack yesterday, was the snap count an issue yesterday? What in the final game of the year the Jets didn't know the "go" and "go-go" difference? Even after its been talked about all year? It's beyond silly. It makes no sense!

[CF DolFan]

McKinnie later clarified. He was talking about the silent count.