British hospitals burned bodies of aborted, miscarried babies to heat buildings

[CF DolFan]

Going to love this one or at least the reaction is gets from this leftist crowd. I've seen this several times today but am posting what appears to be an unbiased report.  They were burning fetal remains with trash to use for heat. Even pro-choice people are upset which is kind of a slippery slope considering they don't consider it a human being.

British hospitals incinerated the bodies of thousands of aborted and miscarried babies as clinical waste, with some used to heat hospitals as part of an energy efficiency programs, the Telegraph reports.

Ten hospitals of the National Health Service, the UK’s prized single-payer system, have admitted to burning fetal bodies with other medical waste. Another two NHS hospitals which housed “waste-to-energy” plants, which generate heat while eliminating so-called medical waste.

Addenbrooke hospital in Cambridge, England hosted a waste-to-energy plant where officials incinerated the bodies of 797 babies, while telling their mothers that the bodies would be “cremated.”


Ipswich Hospital, an NHS facility whose waste-to-energy plant was run by a private contractor, burnt 1,101 fetal bodies between 2011 and 2013, after bringing in bodies from another hospital to provide more energy for the plant. A spokeswoman for the hospital denied that the NHS facility was incinerating fetal remains and was “concerned” that another bodies from another hospital had been incinerated in its waste-to-energy plant.

The investigation by British Channel 4 found that Addenbrooke’s stance was typical of the British health care system as a whole, where parents were typically not informed about how their children’s remains were being disposed.

One woman, Cathryn Hurley, found out in a British hospital her child had died at eight weeks, but the NHS trust refused to release her child’s remains to her.

“I was hysterical, I was crying. I asked one of the nurses what would happen to my baby, and she just said — well, it will be incinerated with the rest of the day’s waste,” Hurley said, according to the Daily Mail. “That was really difficult to hear because to me it wasn’t waste, it was my baby.”

Over the past two years, 27 NHS trusts, public hospital systems run by the British government, have incinerated at least 15,500 bodies of aborted or miscarried babies.


British bureaucrats began scrambling to mitigate the damage Sunday night upon first learning of the investigation. Britain’s Department of Health, which administers the National Health Service, banned the practice and health minister Dan Poulter said the practice is “totally unacceptable.”

“While the vast majority of hospitals are acting in the appropriate way, that must be the case for all hospitals and the Human Tissue Authority has now been asked to ensure that it acts on this issue without delay,” Poulter said.


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[Sunstroke]

As long as the hospital staff didn't huddle around the fire, making s'mores, I have no problem with it. Burned fetus fucks up the taste of the marshmallows...or so I'm told.

[Buddhagirl]

So, hospitals were found not to be disposing of medical waste properly? Is that the story here?

[Spider-Dan]

No, it's not even that.  Nobody would care if they were burning bandages and old casts.

As best I can tell:

- Hospitals were burning medical waste
- Some hospitals would reclaim the energy from burning medical waste, and use it to heat the hospital
- Either aborted fetal tissue or Unborn British Children (depending on your point of view) were being classified as "medical waste"

The actual story here is the last point.  I can use similar logic to say that American landfills are using decomposed children to generate power:

- several forms of birth control prevent a fertilized embryo (i.e. "an unborn child") from implanting
- this fertilized embryo may then be absorbed in a tampon or maxipad
- these products are thrown in the trash and transported to landfills
- some landfills recapture methane from decomposing garbage and use it to generate power

[Buddhagirl]

Well, I'm curious. What do they usually do with medical waste? Are they supposed to bury it or something? I don't see what the problem is here.

[masterfins]

Well, I'm curious. What do they usually do with medical waste? Are they supposed to bury it or something? I don't see what the problem is here.

The problem, aside from some "people" using abortion as a form of birth control, is that some of the unborn were from miscarriages and the parents of these miscarried babies were not given the option to take their dead babies so that they could properly care to their remains.  Or they were lied to about how the remains would be cared for.

I'm sure the article is written for shock value, as I doubt the remains of the unborn were of enough mass to generate that much heat.  It really was just the most economical way of disposing of a variety of medical wastes.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

what appears to be an unbiased report. 
 http://dailycaller.com/

Really the daily caller is an unbiased report?  Seriously?

that some of the unborn were from miscarriages and the parents of these miscarried babies were not given the option to take their dead babies so that they could properly care to their remains. 

Assuming that is true.  And given the source, that is quite questionable, than that is in fact an issue.  The mother of a miscarriage should be the one who decides if the fetus should receive a funeral, be treated as medical waste or something else.  Neither the hospital, the government, nor anyone else should be making that decision for her. 

As for the rest of the story it just right wingers trying to make nothing into their agenda.   

[masterfins]

Assuming that is true.  And given the source, that is quite questionable, than that is in fact an issue. 

As for the rest of the story it just right wingers trying to make nothing into their agenda.   

Well they give the woman's name and quote her, so I wouldn't think it was that questionable since the source can be verified.  I mean after all people on this site take unnamed sources reporting rumors as gospel.

Personally I don't think its nothing, and I'm far from a right winger.

[Sunstroke]

I think it's funny that folks are lobbing "left-wing this" and "right-wing that" volleys at each other...over an issue going on in England.

Our lefts and rights have no bearing on things done by other countries.

[Buddhagirl]

The problem, aside from some "people" using abortion as a form of birth control, is that some of the unborn were from miscarriages and the parents of these miscarried babies were not given the option to take their dead babies so that they could properly care to their remains.  Or they were lied to about how the remains would be cared for.

I'm sure the article is written for shock value, as I doubt the remains of the unborn were of enough mass to generate that much heat.  It really was just the most economical way of disposing of a variety of medical wastes.

WTF does that even have to do with this discussion? In England abortion is a legal MEDICAL PROCEDURE. No matter why women are doing it.

I'm calling bullshit on your entire stance since you're obviously a  forced birther.

Also, if a pregnancy is far enough along not to be medical waste, the parents are given the body as they would under any other circumstance so they can have a funeral.

This is a non story being propped up by the forced birthers to try to blurry the lines of viable babies and medical waste. NOPE. Not falling for it.

[Dolphster]

I agree that this is a tragic story.  There are people starving in third world countries and this medical waste is just being burned up to create energy.  Terrible waste.  Feed the world first, then heat your buildings! 

[Dolphster]

Follow up question.  Which would be a more horrible scenario to the god squad, a fetus being aborted or being born and subsequently adopted by a gay couple?       Also LOL'ing at the "left versus right" aspect of all of this.  There are plenty of pro choice Republicans.  In fact, I'm one of them. 

[CF DolFan]

I guess its not an issue in here but in the real world many "pro-choice" people see it as an issue. That's exactly why I asked your opinion. .  Its been on CBS, NBC, national papers etc but in here its reduced to right wing agenda. I should have known better than to ask

[Spider-Dan]

CF, do you think aborted fetuses should properly be classified as medical waste?

If they should be classified as such, is it wrong to dispose of them in a manner consistent with other medical waste?  (I presume you don't object to the incineration of tumors, appendices, amputated limbs, etc.)

If they should not be classified as such, what should they be classified as, and why?  Is it possible to square this new classification with the established legal determination that this tissue is NOT a person?

[bsmooth]

 Only two...TWO hospitals in the whole country were using fetuses, along with other medical waste to heat and run the building.
Should the parents of miscarriages be offered the ability to conduct a funeral for their undeveloped fetus? Sure. But that  is not what this story is about. This headline and story were created to create fear and rally anti abortion forces. It has worked, as I have seen this story posted multiple times by Christians, who think abortion is reprehensible, and that lefties just want to murder babies to heat their childless, heathen homes.

To those who are against this, I ask you what should be done with aborted fetuses, and unclaimed miscarriages?