World Cup chatter thread.

[Brian Fein]

I root for USA first and almost exclusively.  But since I come from an Italian family, I like to see Italy do well.  As Phish said, that didn't work out.

I'm probably rooting for Brazil because I think it would be cool to see the home country win.  Either that, or Das Germans.  Really I don't even care who wins at this point, but I will enjoy watching these remaining games.

[Tenshot13]

Germany is always my number 2 team.

[Spider-Dan]

Now that we are eliminated, who are your second teams?

My second team is NFL preseason.

[dolphins4life]

What happened with Chris Wondolowski?  I did not see the end of the game because I had to work.   Also, I didn't know soccer overtimes weren't sudden death.  Soccer is really quite a brutal sport to play.   

[Pappy13]

Since I stopped arguing with you, I'll let you argue with yourself.

Here is your original premise:

There quite obviously is something inherently wrong with ties, which is why they stop allowing them at the knockout round.

Here's your counter argument to that premise.

There is no reason than any individual game cannot end in a tie score

If we accept your second statement obviously when FIFA has the choice, they CHOOSE to end in a tie score. It's only when a winner MUST be chosen that they don't allow ties despite their quite obvious preference to end in a tie.

[Spider-Dan]

That looks like a fun game!  Let me give it a try.

Here is your original premise, in the post right before the one you just cited as my "original premise":

But don't try to suggest that there's something inherently wrong with ties.

And here is your counter argument to that premise:

You cannot have a tie in a knockout round!

So there's nothing inherently wrong with ties, except for when you cannot allow them?  Got it.

Put simply: is it possible to use tiebreakers to determine which team advances in the case of a tie game in a knockout round, yes or no?  If the answer is yes, then FIFA simply prefers the option of PKs over the alternative of tiebreakers in the knockout round, and they could just as easily choose the option of PKs in group play, too.

[Tenshot13]

I'm filing this argument under the "who gives a shit" file.  Frankly, I'd like to come to this thread and talk about the actual World Cup not a pissing match about ties.

[Pappy13]

FIFA simply prefers the option of PKs over the alternative of tiebreakers in the knockout round

PK's ARE the tiebreaker. Tiebreakers is simply the plural form of tiebreaker.

tie·break·er  [tahy-brey-ker]

noun 
a system for breaking a tie score at the end of regulation play by establishing a winner through special additional play, usually of a fairly short duration, as in tennis and soccer.

[Phishfan]

What happened with Chris Wondolowski?  I did not see the end of the game because I had to work.   Also, I didn't know soccer overtimes weren't sudden death.  Soccer is really quite a brutal sport to play.   

He had a very good opportunity to score (at close range) but could not keep the ball down and sent it over the net. As for sudden death, FIFA experimented with the Golden Goal a few World Cups back. It did not stick around for whatever reason.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Ties are a part of the group play of the world cup just like the nfl has ties during the regular season.  In the playoffs you can't have ties.  I don't have a problem with the ties.

In fact if I was to change any sports overtime rules, it would be baseball to cap the number of extra inning to 3 during the regular season, if after the 12th inning the game is still tied it is recorded as a tie.  I would also cap regular season basketball to 2 overtimes during the regular season allowing ties be recorded if they are still tied.  Obviously keep unlimited overtime and extra innings during post season.