Anyone still holding out hope for Tua at #5...

[Dolphster]

lol. Well I'd agree that's what journalism used to be, and what we wish it was.  But nowadays "journalists" write whatever will be noticed/repeated/read more; because that's how their employers measure their worth.

That is some truth right there!  Sadly, the same goes not just for sports "journalists" but for people who "report" (and I'm using that term very loosely) on real news that matters.  You can go to two different allegedly legit national news sources and you'd think they were talking about two completely different stories. 

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Consider the source before taking this comment seriously.

What's wrong with Dan Orlovsky?

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https://twitter.com/ckparrot/status/1250929669010010112

Chris Kouffman
@ckparrot
Brett Favre played his entire career with a hip condition. Injured it in Shrine Game. When Ron Wolf tried to trade Atlanta for him, the Packers doctors failed his physical, predicted avascular necrosis, gave him a 4-5 year outlook. Wolf overruled them. https://espn.com/nfl/news/story

in the article:

Favre said he hurt his hip in the East-West Shrine game, and the
condition is the same as the one that afflicted former football and
baseball star Bo Jackson.

[Sunstroke]

Consider the source before taking this comment seriously.

Exactly...

Orlovsky's shining moment of glory...

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He would know though, he's the poster boy of mediocrity.

[Sunstroke]

He would know though, he's the poster boy of mediocrity.

All around the world, the Mediocre just took offense to that...  

[hordman]

Mike Tannebaum, on the ESPN Get Up! this morning said Tua is not a Top-10 player int he draft.

Based on his opinion alone, I'd take Tua at No. 5.  I'd go oppo everything Mike says and does

[Seafort]

Mike Tannebaum, on the ESPN Get Up! this morning said Tua is not a Top-10 player int he draft.

Based on his opinion alone, I'd take Tua at No. 5.  I'd go oppo everything Mike says and does

The question is - and if you're Miami you may have to look at it in this fashion - of the following pool of 2020 and 2021 quarterbacks who would you most prefer?

Joe Burrows
Tua Tagovailoa
Justin Hebert
Trevor Lawrence
Justin Fields

Miami has the draft capital to move up to take any one of these players, if they really want to. I'm fine with waiting a year if Lawrence and Fields are graded as the best in this two year window.

[Pappy13]

That is some truth right there!  Sadly, the same goes not just for sports "journalists" but for people who "report" (and I'm using that term very loosely) on real news that matters.  You can go to two different allegedly legit national news sources and you'd think they were talking about two completely different stories. 

That's different from what I said. Those reporters actually believe what they are writing despite having completely different opinions from each other.

[EDGECRUSHER]

The question is - and if you're Miami you may have to look at it in this fashion - of the following pool of 2020 and 2021 quarterbacks who would you most prefer?

Joe Burrows
Tua Tagovailoa
Justin Hebert
Trevor Lawrence
Justin Fields

Miami has the draft capital to move up to take any one of these players, if they really want to. I'm fine with waiting a year if Lawrence and Fields are graded as the best in this two year window.

Every team has the draft capital get Burrow, but the cost is not worth it. So really, our options are:

Tua
Herbert

Burrow is too much and we won't be bad enough to get the other two next year without also paying a huge price that probably isn't worth it. In that case, Tua is better.

[masterfins]

What's wrong with Dan Orlovsky?

oops, my bad, I thought Andrew "McLovin" Perelman said that.  He likes to stir the pot and call every great QB a "system QB".  He's funny, but as I said a lot of what he says is to stir the pot.

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Cameron Wolfe
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@CameronWolfe

The Dolphins have 5 of the first 56 selections in the 2020 draft.
Only 6 teams in the common draft era have ever had that many picks within the first 56 picks.

Those teams combined for an eye-opening 62-22-1 (.729) record the following season, per @ESPNStatsInfo.

https://twitter.com/cameronwolfe/status/1251237749329285120?s=21

 

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Really cool in-depth article on the draft prospects and their their metrics.  

Yes, on average, Tua’s release is quicker than Aaron Rodgers’s. And it’s even faster than the legendary throwing motion of Dan Marino. It’s that quick.

https://medium.com/@thetim_dix/nfl-draft-how-strong-is-joe-burrows-arm-b69abd897399

Per the Reddit Post I found the article through--Tua's release is quicker than Dan Marino's. Jordan Love's maximum launch velocity is the equivalent of a 98 MPH fastball. And Joe Burrow's decision making measured frame by frame.

[hordman]

Really cool in-depth article on the draft prospects and their their metrics.  

Yes, on average, Tua’s release is quicker than Aaron Rodgers’s. And it’s even faster than the legendary throwing motion of Dan Marino. It’s that quick.

https://medium.com/@thetim_dix/nfl-draft-how-strong-is-joe-burrows-arm-b69abd897399

Per the Reddit Post I found the article through--Tua's release is quicker than Dan Marino's. Jordan Love's maximum launch velocity is the equivalent of a 98 MPH fastball. And Joe Burrow's decision making measured frame by frame.

thanks for sharing

[hordman]

My final take on Dolphins 1st round pick at No.5

If Tua is available at No. 5, Dolphins should absolutely take him. I would NOT trade up for him. Yes, I am high on him, but the draft capital that MIA has built over the last year with cuts and trades is the ultimate goal. To build a consistent playoff contender that may eventually get them to the Super Bowl.

IMO, the Chargers are gonna pull the trigger and either get DET or NYG to switch with them and make Tua their man.  With LAC moving up, and either one of those teams dropping back to the 6th slot, both teams will get their guy and get some additional compensation from LAC to a boot.

I could be wrong.  But as Dolphins have been building their team last season, this year with FA and now the draft, I don't think they should give away something to move up 2 slots and get him.

If Herbert is picked, so be it.  I think Tua is the better prospect and the better players, but I like those draft picks and this bigger than one guy, let's be honest.  MIA needs help at OL, RB, some other spots and I don't like them giving away picks for:

1) a guy (Tua) that is drafted and will most likely sit for the an entire year, learning behind Fitzpatrick & getting acclimated to the NFL
2) players (at No. 18 and 26) that should be contributing immediately this season.

Good luck Miami! Phins Up!