Rumors of an Xavien Howard Holdout

[EDGECRUSHER]

This is a year early.  Next year his salary is not guaranteed so I can understand re-negotiating next year, but not now.  I get that players want guaranteed pay to protect against possible injuries, but teams need to protect themselves also.  I hope he doesn't make a big thing out of this, and just shows up; because it seems like most of the time the players loose out when they sit out a season.

He got a new agent and he is undoubtedly telling him to sit out. The new agent doesn't get a dime from his current deal so he wants it to be renegotiated so he can get paid. At this time, I do not think he sits out regular games or the preseason but it's still early. All I know for sure is that this is Noah's time to step up and show Miami that they can play hardball.

[hordman]

^^^

To be fair to us, while his onfield play has been outstanding, he has missed 24 games already in his career due to injury and gotten full pay for it. Extending him was a risk in the first place but we took the chance and it is working out so far. Everyone takes chances with contracts, very few people get exact market value, it's either above or below. Maybe guarantee a few more million as a peace offering but this is a dangerous precedent to set and we should avoid it.

^^^^ THIS

[CF DolFan]

It almost seems like the only way this gets settled is by making a trade. Like Edge mentioned .... the new agent wants his money too and I'm not convinced the Dolphins are ready to do that for him. Hopefully we will get another great 1st round pick for him.

[EDGECRUSHER]

It almost seems like the only way this gets settled is by making a trade. Like Edge mentioned .... the new agent wants his money too and I'm not convinced the Dolphins are ready to do that for him. Hopefully we will get another great 1st round pick for him.

If we trade him, it's for multiple first rounders. He didn't win it, but he was DPOY. Might even ask for a 3rd or 4th rounder on top of that because Xavier has zero leverage. He is signed for 4 years and won't be sitting out games every year, he is basically stuck and we can afford to do whatever is best for the team. We learned from the Minkah debacle, any package for Xavier will be Tunsil level.

[Tenshot13]

If we trade him, it's for multiple first rounders. He didn't win it, but he was DPOY. Might even ask for a 3rd or 4th rounder on top of that because Xavier has zero leverage. He is signed for 4 years and won't be sitting out games every year, he is basically stuck and we can afford to do whatever is best for the team. We learned from the Minkah debacle, any package for Xavier will be Tunsil level.

*Xavien

[EDGECRUSHER]

*Xavien

Damnit. I know it is Xavien, I am at work when I shitpost about the Dolphins and make typos.

[EDGECRUSHER]

There doesn't appear to have been any serious trade offers for Xavien and I don't think there will be. Not this offseason at this moment in time at least. Any trade offer for him will involve multiple high end draft picks as well as a new contract that will make him the highest paid CB in the NFL. Those are two heavy prices to pay. Combine all that with him being signed for 4 years and Miami has all the leverage. They still may tweek it a bit or tell him to be the DPOY again and they will rework it next offseason but Xavien is almost 100% going to be a Dolphin in Week 1.

[masterfins]

There doesn't appear to have been any serious trade offers for Xavien and I don't think there will be. Not this offseason at this moment in time at least. Any trade offer for him will involve multiple high end draft picks as well as a new contract that will make him the highest paid CB in the NFL. Those are two heavy prices to pay. Combine all that with him being signed for 4 years and Miami has all the leverage. They still may tweek it a bit or tell him to be the DPOY again and they will rework it next offseason but Xavien is almost 100% going to be a Dolphin in Week 1.

I don't see Xavien going anywhere this year.  He's 28, only played all 16 games two out of his five years in the league, and has had a couple knee surgeries.  It's a dream to think any team is dumb enough to give up multiple #1's for him, it isn't going to happen.  He needs to have a good season this year; then next year I can see them re-working his contract so he has guaranteed money.

[CF DolFan]

This could get ugly. Rumor is the team doesn't want draft picks as they are wanting to win now. If we give up X then we are limiting our blitz packages and thus our defense will certainly struggle more than it did last year. We have two shut down corners and need them both to play how we did last season.

[EDGECRUSHER]

This could get ugly. Rumor is the team doesn't want draft picks as they are wanting to win now. If we give up X then we are limiting our blitz packages and thus our defense will certainly struggle more than it did last year. We have two shut down corners and need them both to play how we did last season.

The fact that X has no leverage in this situation should limit it's ugliness. There is literally nothing he can do but sitout and NOT get paid and he would have to do that for the next 4 years. We are in "win now" mode and only a Top 5 pick would help us the year we used it so it just makes no sense from our standpoint. If Noah played last year and was lights out, then maybe we could explore a trade but he is a project and a definite downgrade as of right now.

Our answer is very likely "play out the year and we will revisit this next offseason, you have our word". Hope his agent doens't get him Leveon Bell'd.

[EDGECRUSHER]

https://phinphanatic.com/2021/07/01/miami-dolphins-5-creative-trade-scenarios-xavien-howard/

I know that the offseaosn can be slow and writers still need to make content but this is a terrible article. 5 trade scenarios for Xavien and he is being given away in each one. Miami has all the leverage. He is under contract for 4 more years, he won't hold out every year and lose money and Noah is looking great in camp, albeit still a downgrade from the should've been DPOY. Barring any major injuries to the secondary, why cave in and trade him for $.50 on the dollar? I would like to think we learned from the Minkah debacle.

[masterfins]

https://phinphanatic.com/2021/07/01/miami-dolphins-5-creative-trade-scenarios-xavien-howard/

I know that the offseaosn can be slow and writers still need to make content but this is a terrible article. 5 trade scenarios for Xavien and he is being given away in each one. Miami has all the leverage. He is under contract for 4 more years, he won't hold out every year and lose money and Noah is looking great in camp, albeit still a downgrade from the should've been DPOY. Barring any major injuries to the secondary, why cave in and trade him for $.50 on the dollar? I would like to think we learned from the Minkah debacle.

I don't like the first option, the others aren't bad but they should come with 1st round picks.  However, I'm still totally against trading him.  I think he's making a big mistake if he sits out the season, he loses $13 million and you just can never make that money back.  I understand he wants to cash in with the great year he had last year, but Miami would set a bad example by giving in to this blackmail.  It's one thing to do it with Minkah when you aren't expected to win right away, but now Miami is set to win and become a contender over the next couple years.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I don't like the first option, the others aren't bad but they should come with 1st round picks.  However, I'm still totally against trading him.  I think he's making a big mistake if he sits out the season, he loses $13 million and you just can never make that money back.  I understand he wants to cash in with the great year he had last year, but Miami would set a bad example by giving in to this blackmail.  It's one thing to do it with Minkah when you aren't expected to win right away, but now Miami is set to win and become a contender over the next couple years.

He wouldn't sit out the season, just the maximum number of games to have it still count as a contract year. However, even that is very unlikely because he would still have 3 years left on his deal. He isn't going to do that every year and cost himself tens of millions. He has no leverage, just an agent who wants to get paid. We will work something out next offseason if he is DPOY again, but even that will be on our terms.

I am absolutely against trading him but if he really does start sitting out games and another team comes by with a Tunsil offer, we have to listen. Especially if Noah is playing well.

[Dolphster]

He wouldn't sit out the season, just the maximum number of games to have it still count as a contract year. However, even that is very unlikely because he would still have 3 years left on his deal. He isn't going to do that every year and cost himself tens of millions. He has no leverage, just an agent who wants to get paid. We will work something out next offseason if he is DPOY again, but even that will be on our terms.

I am absolutely against trading him but if he really does start sitting out games and another team comes by with a Tunsil offer, we have to listen. Especially if Noah is playing well.

Personally, I'm not too concerned if he sits out part of training camp as he is a veteran, knows his job, keeps himself in shape, etc.  I certainly wouldn't want him sitting out any of the regular season though.  And like some of you have pointed out, he doesn't have much leverage so I don't know why he would opt for a long term sit out.  Stranger things have happened though.  We'll see.

[EDGECRUSHER]

NFL Network's Mike Silver reports "there's a lot of trade chatter concerning" Dolphins CB Xavien Howard.

Per Silver, Howard remains unhappy with his contract and wants a new, improved deal despite having four years left on his current one after inking a five-year, $75.25 million extension two offseasons ago. Howard skipped the Dolphins' mandatory minicamp last month and isn't thrilled that he makes less than teammate CB Byron Jones after Howard led the NFL with 10 interceptions last season (Jones had two) and is widely regarded as one of the league's top cover men, in a class alongside Jalen Ramsey. Ramsey signed a five-year, $100 million extension prior to Week 1 last year as the league's highest-paid corner. At $15.05 million per year, Howard is the sixth-highest-paid player at his position, trailing Ramsey, Marlon Humphrey, Tre'Davious White, Darius Slay, and teammate Jones. According to Silver, it will take a first-round pick and more to land Howard, and "several teams" are said to be considering the move. - Rotoworld

Anything less than the Tunsil package and it's a No from me, not like I have a say. We have all the leverage because he is under contract for 4 more years, this isn't his walk year. A 1st rounder and "more" for the DPOY? Absolutely not. Two 1st rounders and then some. Keep in mind, the teams willing to pay this much for one player are probably close to contending right now, teams like the Jaguars and Giants won't be doing this trade, so their draft picks will be in the later rounds. I doubt we get as lucky as we did with Houston collapsing again.

I don't think Miami pulls the trigger on this no matter what the deal is unless they feel Noah can contribute at a high level. We aren't rebuilding anymore, we are contending and if you are losing a player like Xavien, then the backup must be good as well. This can't be all about cap space and draft picks anymore.