Rumors of an Xavien Howard Holdout

[EDGECRUSHER]

Rumor is we tried to trade X for Chandler Jones and a 5th and the Cardinals said no.

We originally asked for magic beans but that was also rejected.

His "no outside factors" trade value is 2 First Rounders and something extra like a kick returner or a 5th rounder. His trade value today after demanding a trade in order to be the highest paid CB in history just as training camp starts and rosters are set? Not enough to have a serious trade discussion. You'll have like 2-3 teams at most and the offers will be low because of that. Only chance is if the Cowboys get desperate.

[hordman]

We originally asked for magic beans but that was also rejected.

His "no outside factors" trade value is 2 First Rounders and something extra like a kick returner or a 5th rounder. His trade value today after demanding a trade in order to be the highest paid CB in history just as training camp starts and rosters are set? Not enough to have a serious trade discussion. You'll have like 2-3 teams at most and the offers will be low because of that. Only chance is if the Cowboys get desperate.

^^^^ THIS

His trade value will be hurt cause like you said, camp has just started and rosters are mostly set.  Maybe if an injury happens in camp for the position would elevate the trade.  More than likely we will bank on Cowboys trying "to make move" for Jerry

[EDGECRUSHER]

^^^^ THIS

His trade value will be hurt cause like you said, camp has just started and rosters are mostly set.  Maybe if an injury happens in camp for the position would elevate the trade.  More than likely we will bank on Cowboys trying "to make move" for Jerry

Because of this, 90% he stays with Miami unless Dallas does something stupid or we do. While I don't think he is being smart with this whole thing, Xavien knows that he has to play every game this year and play it well in order to have leverage next offseason. If he is injured this year or is just okay, we're not revisiting a thing with him next offseason and no team is trading 1st rounders and offering him a new contract.

[pondwater]

After reading his press release. Hold his shitty little ass accountable for the whole contract. If he doesn't act like a professional, do his job, and perform up to those numbers in the current contract. Bench his ass then trade him to a shit team. Let him go get his money being a loser every week. Fuck this clown.

[CF DolFan]

After reading his press release. Hold his shitty little ass accountable for the whole contract. If he doesn't act like a professional, do his job, and perform up to those numbers in the current contract. Bench his ass then trade him to a shit team. Let him go get his money being a loser every week. Fuck this clown.

I completely get that but the problem is Dolphins are in win now mode and he is a huge part of that. We've been losers so long we might just as well suck it u and give him 4 million more a year because losing him will only make us much worse off.

[EDGECRUSHER]

I completely get that but the problem is Dolphins are in win now mode and he is a huge part of that. We've been losers so long we might just as well suck it u and give him 4 million more a year because losing him will only make us much worse off.

Yeah, it's a balancing act with him due to his talent and where we are now. That's why I said I didn't really believe his press release when he said he just wanted a little more guaranteed money. I think if that's all it took then it would've been done. He's just banking on Miami not trahsing him publicly to refute it and he is probably right since we don't want to turn this into a blood feud.

It's not impossible we trade him before the season but it is unlikely because we are definitely a worse team without him. Even if Noah takes ahuge leap forward, Xavien is DPOY despite what the voting said. Draft picks only help us in the future.

[pondwater]

I completely get that but the problem is Dolphins are in win now mode and he is a huge part of that. We've been losers so long we might just as well suck it u and give him 4 million more a year because losing him will only make us much worse off.

When he missed a lot of games, they kept him around. When he had his legal problems, they kept him around. They gave him a contract that made him the highest paid cornerback in the league. AND HE SIGNED IT. Did he think that he would be the highest paid cornerback forever? I don't care if we only win 3 games, you don't let people like this control the situation. FUCK FUCK FUCK Xavian Howard. These aren't the type of people you want on your team

See who you can get to bolster the secondary. Then send that POS asshole to a shit team for as much as you can get ASAP. Life goes on

[masterfins]

When he missed a lot of games, they kept him around. When he had his legal problems, they kept him around. They gave him a contract that made him the highest paid cornerback in the league. AND HE SIGNED IT. Did he think that he would be the highest paid cornerback forever? I don't care if we only win 3 games, you don't let people like this control the situation. FUCK FUCK FUCK Xavian Howard. These aren't the type of people you *don't* want on your team

See who you can get to bolster the secondary. Then send that POS asshole to a shit team for as much as you can get ASAP. Life goes on

+1

Right now Miami will have the 4th best cap space for 2022.  If this guy was smart he would keep his trap shut, ball out in 2021, and he would get/deserve a renegotiation for 2022.  His continued antics tells me he either doesn't believe he can live up to his performance in 2020, or he's a prima donna ass that Miami doesn't need (or perhaps both).  I'd rather Miami miss the playoffs than pay a blackmailer that they have been very generous to.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Ian Rapoport is saying that multiple teams have called about Xavien, with two of them being playoff teams. This is why the package has to be for a lot more than just a 1st rounder. A playoff team adding Xavien can be a contender and you don't trade him away for the 29th overall pick. That's not a 1st rounder we should be looking at. A playoff team owes us two of those plus more.

Xavien will play for us and play well if he is still here in Week 1.

[pondwater]

Xavien will play for us and play well if he is still here in Week 1.

His comment "Until a trade happens Im just here so I don't get fined and will handle myself like a professional", doesn't sound like he's going to play well. A real professional goes to work and does his job for the agreed upon salary. Not "just to not get fined". This clown needs to go, next man up.

[EDGECRUSHER]

His comment "Until a trade happens Im just here so I don't get fined and will handle myself like a professional", doesn't sound like he's going to play well. A real professional goes to work and does his job for the agreed upon salary. Not "just to not get fined". This clown needs to go, next man up.

He will because he has to in order to get paid. If he doesn't play well or dogs it or gets injured, he isn't getting that new contract and he will be 29, which is a few years away from the CB Cutoff. He will get paid one way or another if he is DPOY again.

[Phishfan]

In a  five year career he has played a full season twice, and played single digit games twice. I lay my money that he gets hurt again this year. If you get any halfway decent offer take it and get rid of the locker room problem.

[pondwater]

Hell, I think I read that Tom Brady took pay cuts to keep his team competitive and in the Superbowl. No one is asking this clown to take a pay cut, just be a fucking man and honor your contract.

[EDGECRUSHER]

Hell, I think I read that Tom Brady took pay cuts to keep his team competitive and in the Superbowl. No one is asking this clown to take a pay cut, just be a fucking man and honor your contract.

I can understand the player's POV on this in regards to guaranteed money because the team can almost cut you whenever they want so NFL contracts are near worthless. That part of the argument is fine to me, what isn't fine is renegotiating your long term contract every offseason. Team takes a risk in signing an injury prone player to big money, player takes a risk if the market blows up afterwards. No one gets paid what they are worth every year. If they were, we owe Xavien an extra $3 Million last year and he owes us $8 Million for not playing the full season in 2019. I don't think he wants that deal.

[pondwater]

No one gets paid what they are worth every year.

I disagree, you're worth what you agree to accept to do the job. In one year, dude already gets paid 7-10 times what a regular person makes in their entire lifetime. Xavian Howard is a selfish ass pussy who only cares about himself. If he has another good to great year, add some production related incentives next offseason. If he doesn't play up to his current salary, bench his ass and trade him to Houston, Detroit, or Jacksonville to finish out his career. You can't let someone like this hold the team hostage. He could single handedly control the outcome of a game on a whim.