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raptorsfan29
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« on: April 30, 2006, 08:52:03 pm »
Who will allow their first Earned run. Boston closer Johnathon papelbon or Toronto Closer B.J Ryan
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2006, 09:15:39 am »
It'll happen soon, for both of them. 
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2006, 12:18:07 pm »
Probably Papelbon, if only because he is used more.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2006, 01:27:45 pm »

I'm guessing Ryan will give up the first earned run...he challenges hitters a lot more directly than Papelbon, from what I've seen of both, and if you challenge enough good hitters in the strike zone, eventually someone's gonna tag ya.

Both are pretty damned studly to this point though. My top ESPN roto squad has Ryan-Papelbon-Gordon-Dempster as my 4 closers and I think, altogether, the group has given up 2 runs so far this season.

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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2006, 02:20:13 pm »
Just some advice on Gordon. If the Phillies are in playoff contention with a month to go, dump Gordon. I am sure Maine will back me up on Gordon's ability to perform under pressure.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2006, 02:37:05 pm »
Quote from: EDGECRUSHER on May 01, 2006, 02:20:13 pm
Just some advice on Gordon. If the Phillies are in playoff contention with a month to go, dump Gordon. I am sure Maine will back me up on Gordon's ability to perform under pressure.
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Absolutely...I know Gordon extremely well throughout his career. He's a crusty vet bullpen guy.

All those late season concerns...are beyond the trade deadline at that point...and our fantasy season ends with the regular season, so any playoff flops Gordon might be setting up for...won't really affect my squad.

If I get a legit offer for him though..."everyone" on my team is available, including Ryan and Papelbon. :-)
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2006, 10:58:32 pm »
Papelbon cracked first, giving up an earned run tonight and taking the loss. Didn't blow the save though. Guarantee that this doesn't phase him for one second and he mows down the batters in his next game.

EDIT: Apparently Gregg Zaunn took the Red Sox big in Vegas because after Ryan struck out the 3rd batter for the final out, he had a passed ball and then threw the ball into center field when the runner tried to steal the base. Now Varitek strikes out giving BJ 3 K's and 4 outs in the inning to end it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2006, 11:07:29 pm »
Great game. Paplebon vs Ryan and Ryans wins the battle

hey maine, do you think Ryan is earning what he is getting paid?

facing the heart of the order with Ortiz, Ramirez, and vartiek and got them all out.
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2006, 11:53:33 pm »
I think Keith Foulke blows goats.  How this guy is still in the majors baffles me.
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2006, 12:10:30 am »
he doesn't blow, brian, he is just not that good anymore

btw, would you like to jump on the blue jays bandwagon now since you are the best person in the world. i know you shot me down on two times that i tried to recruit you to be a fan of the greatest team in the MLB,This time  i'm not talking about being a fan just a person that will root for us to win the east. come on, i'll give you money, not really but what about friendship.
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2006, 08:12:24 am »
Papelbon was due, no biggie. Its not the first time you see the guy which tells you how dominating he is. Its the next million times the guy faces you that tells you how dominating he is.
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2006, 08:40:54 am »
Raptor - here's the thing with Ryan and his paycheck:  he has 6 saves on the season versus 10 for Papelbon.  Pap is making the league minimum, Ryan is being paid more than "that guy" on the Yankees.

So - I think Ryan is awesome, I told you that in the winter.  I think he'll win you 6-7 games alone this year.  He's not worth the contract that they signed him too, however - he hasn't done anything to warrant that yet.

I love how his two seam rises, tho.  Good stuff!
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2006, 09:38:22 am »
Quote from: raptorsfan29 on May 04, 2006, 12:10:30 am
he doesn't blow, brian, he is just not that good anymore

btw, would you like to jump on the blue jays bandwagon now since you are the best person in the world. i know you shot me down on two times that i tried to recruit you to be a fan of the greatest team in the MLB,This time  i'm not talking about being a fan just a person that will root for us to win the east. come on, i'll give you money, not really but what about friendship.
The Jays sure are despreate for fans, eh?

I haven't shot you down ever - I'm not looking for a new team just yet.  As long as the Marlins are in FL, I'll be a Marlins' fan. 

However, I can't stand AL baseball.  Pitchers should have to hit.
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2006, 09:39:53 am »
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However, I can't stand AL baseball.  Pitchers should have to hit.
I am not a big fan of the automatic out either. Pitching around 2 guys to get to the pitcher and ending the inning isn't exactly my idea of excitement.
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2006, 09:56:59 am »
It doesn't have to be an automatic out.  Pitchers should learn to hit.  If hitters can learn to hit, why can't a pitcher spend some time in the cage?
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