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« on: April 19, 2010, 04:13:52 pm »

We have a user on these forums that seems to have an intense distaste for the normal fan favorites: Ronnie Brown, Chad Henne, Bill Parcels, for example.

I don't think he's an outright troll, because he's been pretty consistent and a regular user of these forums for a long, long time.

So, I ask Tepop, that you explain yourself a little bit.  Which players do you like?  What realistic, positive changes would you make, outside of cutting our star players?
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2010, 05:45:23 pm »

Broke open a bag of pop corn. This should be a good one......... Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2010, 06:35:31 pm »

I think its important to note that I'm pretty sure this is not a bashing Tepop thread, but more of an understanding what he's thinking.
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2010, 06:49:17 pm »

I think its important to note that I'm pretty sure this is not a bashing Tepop thread, but more of an understanding what he's thinking.

I can see now that this is a thread I'd be better off ignoring, as most of Tepop's posts (read: his typed out "thoughts") about the Dolphins seem inherently bash-worthy to me.

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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2010, 10:34:08 pm »

Don't get me wrong -- I think he's pretty nuts.  But there has to be a method to his madness.  I don't see how you can be a Dolphins fan, yet hate everyone on the team.  I'm interested to see where he's truly coming from.
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2010, 10:29:15 am »

We have a user on these forums that seems to have an intense distaste for the normal fan favorites: Ronnie Brown, Chad Henne, Bill Parcels, for example.

I don't think he's an outright troll, because he's been pretty consistent and a regular user of these forums for a long, long time.

So, I ask Tepop, that you explain yourself a little bit.  Which players do you like?  What realistic, positive changes would you make, outside of cutting our star players?


I don't hate everyone on the team.  I dislike players who are favored by fans who just aren't as good as fans/media make them out to be.  Ronnie Brown gets blown by everyone and he doesn't do shit.  He is paid like a top 3 nfl back, but it is a stretch to include him in the top 10.  Chad Henne is made out to be a star when he hasn't shown anything yet.  He has played 1 good game (the first jets games) and several terrible games.  Everyone thinks he will be awesome because he was drafted by Bill Parcells.  The fans make more excuses for him than any other player. 

I like Ricky williams, chad pennington, jake long, jason taylor.  i don't hate everyone on the team.
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2010, 10:58:45 am »

He is paid like a top 3 nfl back, but it is a stretch to include him in the top 10.

In what world is Ronnie Brown paid like a top 3 NFL back?

The top 10 NFL running backs in terms of money per year (at the end of last season):

$8.6M Larry Johnson
$8.6M Steven Jackson
$8.3M Brian Westbrook
$8.0M LaDainian Tomlinson
$7.7M Clinton Portis
$7.6M Maurice Jones-Drew
$7.0M Darren McFadden
$6.9M Frank Gore
$6.4M Marion Barber
$6.3M Brandon Jacobs

Ronnie Brown earned $3.6M last year and signed a tender worth $3.9M for the 2010 season.
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2010, 11:07:16 am »

Ronnie Brown was the 17th-highest paid RB in the league in 2009.
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2010, 11:22:40 am »

In what world is Ronnie Brown paid like a top 3 NFL back?

The top 10 NFL running backs in terms of money per year (at the end of last season):

$8.6M Larry Johnson
$8.6M Steven Jackson
$8.3M Brian Westbrook
$8.0M LaDainian Tomlinson
$7.7M Clinton Portis
$7.6M Maurice Jones-Drew
$7.0M Darren McFadden
$6.9M Frank Gore
$6.4M Marion Barber
$6.3M Brandon Jacobs

Ronnie Brown earned $3.6M last year and signed a tender worth $3.9M for the 2010 season.

Cap value wise he was 10th, just 700,000 behind 4th highest and ~500,000 ahead of 11th.

Or if you want to use your way of including the signing bonus in the year they sign, he was 3rd highest paid back in 2006.
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2010, 11:25:49 am »


I don't hate everyone on the team.  I dislike players who are favored by fans who just aren't as good as fans/media make them out to be.  Ronnie Brown gets blown by everyone and he doesn't do shit.  He is paid like a top 3 nfl back, but it is a stretch to include him in the top 10.  Chad Henne is made out to be a star when he hasn't shown anything yet.  He has played 1 good game (the first jets games) and several terrible games.  Everyone thinks he will be awesome because he was drafted by Bill Parcells.  The fans make more excuses for him than any other player. 

I like Ricky williams, chad pennington, jake long, jason taylor.  i don't hate everyone on the team.

This is a perfect example of how you perform the opposite of what you complain about. You say other fans and media overblow what these players do but you tend to overly devaluate what they do. Try to find some middle ground at least.
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2010, 11:28:01 am »

This is a perfect example of how you perform the opposite of what you complain about. You say other fans and media overblow what these players do but you tend to overly devaluate what they do. Try to find some middle ground at least.

Devalue what.  Ronnie brown was the number 2 pick in the nfl draft and has had one 1000 yard rushing season (which isn't even impressive) in 5 seasons.
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2010, 03:15:08 pm »

Parcells trading ginn for nothing and letting jt go to nyj are why he is an idiot.
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010, 03:39:54 pm »

^^^

You seem to take extreme viewpoints

Parcells isn't perfect.  Yes, he's made some dumb moves, but still, to take a team that was 1-15 and turn them into division winners the next year and have them competing for the playoffs until the last week of the season the following year (even though at least two games were stolen from them) is quite a feat.

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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2010, 03:47:30 pm »

^^^

You seem to take extreme viewpoints

Parcells isn't perfect.  Yes, he's made some dumb moves, but still, to take a team that was 1-15 and turn them into division winners the next year and have them competing for the playoffs until the last week of the season the following year (even though at least two games were stolen from them) is quite a feat.



take a team that lost how many 3 point games and had how many injuries and got them to the playoffs on the easiest schedule in history along with having tom brady go down for the year isn't that great. give me a break two games were stolen from them. it goes both ways.
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2010, 04:12:04 pm »


so...hard...to...stay...quiet ...
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