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« on: January 03, 2011, 01:00:13 pm »

So, I'm basically a lurker here but just felt that I had to ask this.

Does Ross really know what he's doing?

In the days of Wayne, we knew he just wanted to win and did everything he thought was in best interest of this team to do that- he opened his checkbook.  Jimmy, Saban, Parcells, etc. Say what you want about hindsight of these decisions on bringing these people in but at the time he was not questioned at all about them and I don't think anyone knew that all of those would have fallen they way they did.  All of those at the time were looked at "Sound", "Exciting",  fixes when they happened. Of course we all know now what happened with these.

Main thing was that he had our faith. Well, at least he had mine, I suppose, in his football decisions even if they turned out as a disaster in the end.

This whole "Dolphins North" & "Dolphins South" split that some media has reported has me concerned. Ross has been all about  "The Celebrity" and has done NOTHING on the actual game play area. He brings in Buffett, Gloria, Lopez, and even the Williams sisters. Suddenly we have a night club at a football stadium that no one goes to. He had left all game play decisions completely up to Parcells, and now Ireland/Sporano. But now he is forced to make major decisions here as those people now need to be reviewed and possibly replaced. 

This will be a test of Ross's ability to own this team.  Does he have the knowledge, intelligence, and experience to make this call this early in his ownership. More importantly does he have the balls? A football team is not run like a corporation- Wayne found that out the hard way.  No one cares about the celebrity sightings until you field a team that can compete, if they care at all. (Personally not my cup of tea).

What he does here will pave the way for everything to come for years.

And God help us if suddenly Snookie is introduced as a minority owner next since he thinks it will bring more people to the stadium. Just kidding.
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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2011, 01:10:02 pm »

The question is does Ross have the money?  If Ross wasn't worried about the 24 million or something that it will cost to bring in a guy like Cowher, then I think he'd do it.  I'm not sure that he is willing to do that, but he might be.
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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2011, 01:14:41 pm »

I don't live near Miami so someone explain the north and south thing to me please.
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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2011, 01:14:46 pm »

I couldn't give a crap about the celebrity ownership.  It's just something done to bring in a few non-football people to sellout the stadium.  The problem is that if you don't have a winning team on the field to fill the stadium 85%, then you'll never get the extra 15% non-football fanatics.  The celebrity ownership is such a minor issue its not even worth discussing.  Spending money doesn't guarantee a playoff appearance, it has to be wisely spent money.
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2011, 01:16:32 pm »

A lot of people are asserting that Ross is going to do this, he's not like Huizenga and he's gonna clean out the bums with napalm-force.

What makes you so sure? Nothing I've seen from Ross makes him any different from Huizenga in terms of the football operations. He's no Robert Kraft, Jerry Jones, Al Davis or Dan Snyder.
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2011, 01:40:12 pm »

He's no  Al Davis

Isn't that a good thing?
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2011, 03:38:10 pm »

He's no Robert Kraft, Jerry Jones, Al Davis or Dan Snyder.

Lets see the Cowboys and Redskins were both 6-10 this year.  Just goes to show you it doesn't matter how much money you spend.
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2011, 04:01:48 pm »

Lets see the Cowboys and Redskins were both 6-10 this year.  Just goes to show you it doesn't matter how much money you spend.
The Cowboys are actually a VERY bad example this year.  The Cowboys spent VERY little last offseason.  This has been recounted numerous times this year in Dallas.  Jerry and Wade felt the team really didn't need much as they had won a playoff game the year before and brought in very few players to compete for spots.  This is also why they felt they could take a flyer on Dez Bryant when others were afraid of his off-field issues.  Now everyone is saying that there are problems up and down the entire roster.  Amazing how things change in 1 year.

By the way, under Wade Phillips the Cowboys were 1-7.  After they fired Wade the team went 5-3 with almost no other changes.  On top of that franchise QB Tony Romo played for most of that 1-7 record and career backup Jon Kitna played for most of that 5-3 record.  Sometimes all that's needed is a new head coach.
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2011, 05:16:25 pm »

The question is does Ross have the money?  If Ross wasn't worried about the 24 million or something that it will cost to bring in a guy like Cowher, then I think he'd do it.  I'm not sure that he is willing to do that, but he might be.

Yep! It's more to do with $$$ than balls. If Ross wants to be a guy who wants to win, he fires Tony. If he is just content being an NFL owner, then he will probably keep Tony and that is a bad sign long-term for this franchise. It's nice to have an owner who is willing to spend what it takes to win at all costs.
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2011, 05:17:41 pm »

Lets see the Cowboys and Redskins were both 6-10 this year.  Just goes to show you it doesn't matter how much money you spend.

Yeah but those owners (Jones and Synder) interfere with the football side. If Ross just writes checks and lets the football people do their jobs, then spending money hand over fist is a good thing.
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2011, 12:44:55 pm »

Guess he not only doesn't have the BALLS (Carl Peterson tries to have that role aparently), he has no brain. Ross should NOT be an owner of this team, or any team for that matter. This is what I was worried about.
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2011, 01:44:28 pm »

Welcome to the site, LesPaul!

What do you mean by the North/South thing?  I've not heard of it.
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2011, 01:50:22 pm »

Isn't ross a multi-BILLIONAIRE? I can not see him getting his panties in a wad over 24 million on a coach. He does not want people like Cower to have the control for some reason and he seems to have a hard on for Ireland which is a joke.
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2013, 05:05:36 pm »

Hate digging up old posts, but this was questioned three years ago and its still in question. I say no. Franchise is a joke. Every year I say it can't get worse, but they find a way. They sure do.. Can't imagine Ross will do nothing, but I seriously have my doubts he knows what he's doing as an owner. Compared to Kraft? Night and day.
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2013, 05:27:16 pm »

Not about having "balls" its about doing the right thing. When you fire a coach every couple years the "good coaches"...ie Cowher, Gruden, Fisher...etc don't even want to talk with you let alone take your job even when you offer the most money!!

Ross made the cardinal mistake when he talked to Harbaugh and still hadn't fired Sparano. He has been trying to dig out from that ever since. Firing Philbin puts him back at square one. It isn't going to happen. Nor should it!

Ok, they Fire Philbin tomorrow, who you gonna replace him with? Bill O'Brien isn't coming here. Now when Houston and Detroit with 2  owners who everyone respects are out there in the market for a coach. Who else is out there? Who do you want to hire. It's easy to say Fire Philbin, but who you gonna hire? And you can't say hire anyone because that is foolish. Name the names.....who's it gonna be?
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