Current state of MLB is getting worse

[BigDaddyFin]

If you want to fix the game, give it back its' balls that were lost somewhere between 1986 and the 1994 strike.

[Dave Gray]

What job allows secretly wants you to punch someone in the face to maintain order when the bosses don't handle it?  This shit is so goddamn absurd.

[Spider-Dan]

So you want to make a boring game more boring... Awesome.

Not exactly.  I propose that we eliminate the "excitement" of intentional HBP and the attendant 40-man scrum, and replace it with the excitement of players being allowed to actually have fun without having to worry about their personal safety.

Do you want to get rid of fighting in hockey too?

I don't really care about hockey, but the spectacle of officials standing nearby and waiting for players to finish fighting before they break it up is one of the most absurd things in professional sports.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Not exactly.  I propose that we eliminate the "excitement" of intentional HBP and the attendant 40-man scrum, and replace it with the excitement of players being allowed to actually have fun without having to worry about their personal safety.

I agree with this.  The pitchers revenge for having someone flip a bat after hitting a home run should be fist pumping a strike out not a purposeful hbp

[Phishfan]

What job allows secretly wants you to punch someone in the face to maintain order when the bosses don't handle it?  This shit is so goddamn absurd.

Not that I disagree with you but the answer to your question is just about every team sport invented. Sticking up for teammates has always been applauded in sports. You can't compare it to a 9 to 5.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Not that I disagree with you but the answer to your question is just about every team sport invented. Sticking up for teammates has always been applauded in sports. You can't compare it to a 9 to 5.

Not really.  NFL has very few fights, and tragressions are handled by 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties, nor vengeful hits.  Soccer uses yellow and red cards.  Basketball doesn’t have many fights and handles thing with technical fouls. 

This is the equivalent of rather than a yellow for excessive TD celebration the other team took a cheap shot.

Baseball needs to up the penalty for HBP.  Raise it to a double if that doesn’t discourage the behavior raise it to a triple or hr.  If unsportsmanlike conduct was a 5 yard instead of 15 you would see more unsportsmanlike behavior in football.

Plus baseball is not a contact sport, it should have the decorum of tennis or golf not rugby.

[Dave Gray]

Not that I disagree with you but the answer to your question is just about every team sport invented. Sticking up for teammates has always been applauded in sports. You can't compare it to a 9 to 5.

Sticking up for teammates isn't fighting.  Baseball is non-contact, too.  It's not even like in football or basketball where guys get tied up within the rules of the game.

And sticking up normally applies to excessive force.  This isn't the case in baseball.  Sticking up means disrespect from playing too well or celebrating good play.

[Tenshot13]

I guess in today's world there is no room for testosterone.

[Spider-Dan]

I'd hardly say football and basketball have "less testosterone" than baseball.

[Fau Teixeira]

odor should have been arrested and prosecuted for battery. there's ample video evidence.

[Phishfan]

Not really.  NFL has very few fights, and tragressions are handled by 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalties, nor vengeful hits.  Soccer uses yellow and red cards.  Basketball doesn’t have many fights and handles thing with technical fouls. 

This is the equivalent of rather than a yellow for excessive TD celebration the other team took a cheap shot.

Baseball needs to up the penalty for HBP.  Raise it to a double if that doesn’t discourage the behavior raise it to a triple or hr.  If unsportsmanlike conduct was a 5 yard instead of 15 you would see more unsportsmanlike behavior in football.

Plus baseball is not a contact sport, it should have the decorum of tennis or golf not rugby.

I am very familiar with the punishment in each of these sports. It does not stop cheap shots and revenge from happening in any of them.

Dave is right about the difference in celebration retaliation though. These other sports usually happen in run of play while baseball is about hurt feelings. That wasn't the point I responded to either. It was that you can't compare a 9 to 5 and professional sports because the fact is team based skirmishes happen in just about all of them.

[Dolphster]

I guess in today's world there is no room for testosterone.

Look up the term "toxic masculinity" and be prepared to barf on your shoes.  Whenever our new snowflake society gets to be too much for me, I re-read Adam Carolla's book "In Fifty Years We'll All Be Chicks."    I apologize if my use of the term "masculinity" caused anyone to have to hide in their safe space and hug their wooby bear. 

[Tenshot13]

Look up the term "toxic masculinity" and be prepared to barf on your shoes.  Whenever our new snowflake society gets to be too much for me, I re-read Adam Carolla's book "In Fifty Years We'll All Be Chicks."    I apologize if my use of the term "masculinity" caused anyone to have to hide in their safe space and hug their wooby bear. 

You warned me so the barf didn't get on my shoes.  Just a bunch of Soy Boys running around.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I am very familiar with the punishment in each of these sports. It does not stop cheap shots and revenge from happening in any of them.

Dave is right about the difference in celebration retaliation though. These other sports usually happen in run of play while baseball is about hurt feelings. That wasn't the point I responded to either. It was that you can't compare a 9 to 5 and professional sports because the fact is team based skirmishes happen in just about all of them.

Well I am not comparing baseball to my job.  I think it should be compared to other noncontact sports such as golf, tennis, or racing.  When was the last time you heard of a brawl in those sports or someone throwing a projectile 90mph at someone because they celebrated their last win?

It is time to end beaning someone for hurting your feeling.

[Spider-Dan]

Baseball needs to up the penalty for HBP.  Raise it to a double if that doesn’t discourage the behavior raise it to a triple or hr.

Any HBP judged to be intentional should result in the following:

- immediate pitcher ejection and mandatory suspension
- batter scores (and clears the bases)

The idea that clearly intentional HBP is allowed to exist is disgusting.  It is no different than a football player attacking another player using a helmet as a weapon in hand.