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« on: April 09, 2020, 04:45:16 pm »

You can stop now. It's not happening. Maybe if the Corona virus wasn't here and it was just going to be a normal draft and spring training you could justify the risk, but now....not on your life. It's not just his hip injury, he's injury prone. He is. You can deny it all you want, but it's a fact. He might not ever get injured again, but the risk will always be there and it's simply too much to risk a top 10 pick on him. Dolphins will either go with another QB or they'll go with a different position. No way they take Tua at #5. No way. If they do it's a serious mistake. No 2 ways about it anymore.

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1969273
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2020, 05:26:40 pm »

^^^ I agree.  The risk with Tua is just too high for a #5 pick in my opinion.  Injury history, size, and for me a little negative given the fact he played for a top team that had every weapon imaginable.  It wouldn't surprise me if he fell to the late teens or early 20's in the draft.

Recently I have seen more drafts with Miami taking Herbert, which I like.  Herbert has size, agility, arm strength, and good completion percentage.  Had he played on one of the top three college teams I think he would be being touted as the top QB pick of the draft.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2020, 09:16:32 pm »

I'm still holding out hope that Miami doesn't draft him.
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2020, 10:50:42 pm »

Again: if Tua were 100% healthy, MIA would have no shot at him.

I think Burrow and Tua are the only franchise QBs in this draft.  If MIA can't get (or doesn't want) one of them, I'd rather try to get Cam Newton than pick a future journeyman.
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2020, 11:45:51 pm »

Didn't Tannehill teach us that a quarterback needs a good supporting cast to be successful?
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2020, 09:02:13 am »

Who did he fail a physical with and when was this?
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2020, 09:20:49 am »

You can stop now. It's not happening. Maybe if the Corona virus wasn't here and it was just going to be a normal draft and spring training you could justify the risk, but now....not on your life. It's not just his hip injury, he's injury prone. He is. You can deny it all you want, but it's a fact. He might not ever get injured again, but the risk will always be there and it's simply too much to risk a top 10 pick on him. Dolphins will either go with another QB or they'll go with a different position. No way they take Tua at #5. No way. If they do it's a serious mistake. No 2 ways about it anymore.

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1969273

Your hate of this pick is getting to be a little much, it's pretty much all you talk about. I'm not going to take one guys opinion on this, especially when in the same article doctors are saying he's good.  It's not some open and close thing that we shouldn't take him like you're making it out to be.  I agree with Spider, him and Burrow are the only franchise QBs in this draft, Love and Herbert need a lot of help, especially Herbert.
 
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2020, 09:34:16 am »

The best thing about all this? We have three first round picks so if we draft Tua and he gets knocked out of the league in pre-season it's not nearly as bad if we only had one pick and failed. The upside on Tua is too much to let pass us by if we are given the chance.

I really dislike Cam Newton as a QB because I think he has the mental maturity of a very unstable person. He really seems like he has some serious demons and with the way Carolina dumped him ... they do too.

If we do not DRAFT a QB who we feel can lead this team, not manage it ... can you imagine the fanbase's reaction? No way in hell we "tanked" for a LT and a QB who might work out if all the stars align. People would absolutely freak out.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2020, 09:38:50 am »

Your hate of this pick is getting to be a little much, it's pretty much all you talk about.
In my defense it's pretty much the only sports news there is these days unless you count madden games as sports news which I don't.
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2020, 09:44:00 am »

Thought this was kind of funny ...


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The fastest way to make Tua doubters want him is to show them a mock draft where he goes to the Patriots.

The fastest way to make Justin Herbert doubters want him is to show them a mock draft where he goes to the Patriots.
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2020, 09:52:12 am »

In my defense it's pretty much the only sports news there is these days unless you count madden games as sports news which I don't.
I get it, there isn't much of anything going on sports wise.
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2020, 11:18:49 am »

Thought this was kind of funny ...


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The fastest way to make Tua doubters want him is to show them a mock draft where he goes to the Patriots.

The fastest way to make Justin Herbert doubters want him is to show them a mock draft where he goes to the Patriots.


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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2020, 11:29:53 am »


Injury risks aside, I'm still hoping for Tua at #5. That said, I've always been of the belief that Herbert is "also" going to be an excellent QB, so I wouldn't be upset if Miami went that direction instead.

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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2020, 11:52:14 am »

The best thing about all this? We have three first round picks so if we draft Tua and he gets knocked out of the league in pre-season it's not nearly as bad if we only had one pick and failed. The upside on Tua is too much to let pass us by if we are given the chance.

I really dislike Cam Newton as a QB because I think he has the mental maturity of a very unstable person. He really seems like he has some serious demons and with the way Carolina dumped him ... they do too.

If we do not DRAFT a QB who we feel can lead this team, not manage it ... can you imagine the fanbase's reaction? No way in hell we "tanked" for a LT and a QB who might work out if all the stars align. People would absolutely freak out.

Yes, this is the main point. We have the draft capital where this pick could fail and we still improved the team greatly. It would absolutely suck but unless you got that #1 pick, you are always going to take some chances. The ceiling for Tua is far greater than Herbert or Love. To me, the only issue left is if it is worth it to trade up and get him and that is where I am undecided.
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2020, 02:19:05 pm »

I've read so much about Tua's health that is contradictory and 90% of it is conjecture and smokescreen to the extent where I don't even know how I feel about him at this point.   
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