The vaccine

[dolphins4life]

I work in healthcare.  I am nervous about the virus and the vaccine.  I don't think I want it.  I am worried about how my body will react to it.

How many of you have gotten it now?

Edit:  If I do choose to get it, can I stop wearing a mask?   

[fyo]

Why would you be worried about getting the vaccine? Unless you have a history of severe allergic reactions, the side effects are remarkably mild. Several doctors in my immediate family, one of whom is an infectious disease specialist, and there is no question that all of them are getting the vaccine as soon as they can. I'll be getting one of the vaccines as soon as I can, as well. (The Pfizer one as it currently stands, but could be the Moderna instead - they appear very similar at this point, both in terms of how they work, how they are administered, and they're efficacy.)

[fyo]

As for not wearing a mask... Please note that the protection doesn't kick in as soon as you get your shot! It takes some time for your immune system to ramp up. For the stated efficiencies (the 90%+ numbers you've heard about), you need to wait until maybe a week after your SECOND shot. These are two-dose vaccines given about 3 weeks apart, so figure on having to take normal precautions for a month following the first shot.

Even after that, you will likely not be exempt from local rules and workplace guidelines.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

This thread is an example of the problem with our society.  You have access to medical professionals yet choose to seek medical advice from a sports forum. 

[Dave Gray]

Get the vaccine.  Wear your mask.  Full stop.

[Pappy13]

Wearing a mask is as much to prevent you from spreading Covid to someone else as it is to prevent you from getting it. No one knows if you have gotten the vaccine or not or have the virus so you still need to wear a mask when out in public to assure them you're not spreading it. Long story short, yes you still need to wear a mask when you are out in public.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

Wearing a mask is as much to prevent you from spreading Covid to someone else as it is to prevent you from getting it. No one knows if you have gotten the vaccine or not or have the virus so you still need to wear a mask when out in public to assure them you're not spreading it. Long story short, yes you still need to wear a mask when you are out in public.

Also it is unknown if the vaccine prevents you from spreading the disease.  It is quite possible that the vaccine merely prevents an infected person from showing symptoms not from catching and spreading the disease.

[Spider-Dan]

I don't know of any vaccines that allow you to contract a disease enough to spread it, but not enough to have symptoms.  Such a vaccine would be completely ineffective at providing herd immunity, as the associated disease would spread unchecked through the community (no one would even know they have it!) until it reached an unvaccinated person, who would then get normal symptoms.

The way that a vaccine works is that it trains your immune system to fight off a specific disease.  If your post-vaccination immune system isn't effective enough to stop the disease from making you a spreader, wouldn't you have that disease for the rest of your life?  The only way you ever fully recover from a disease is when your immune system learns how to eradicate it, which is what the vaccine teaches it.

[MyGodWearsAHoodie]

I don't know of any vaccines that allow you to contract a disease enough to spread it, but not enough to have symptoms.  Such a vaccine would be completely ineffective at providing herd immunity, as the associated disease would spread unchecked through the community (no one would even know they have it!) until it reached an unvaccinated person, who would then get normal symptoms.

The way that a vaccine works is that it trains your immune system to fight off a specific disease.  If your post-vaccination immune system isn't effective enough to stop the disease from making you a spreader, wouldn't you have that disease for the rest of your life?  The only way you ever fully recover from a disease is when your immune system learns how to eradicate it, which is what the vaccine teaches it.

I am just going with what was reported.  All vaccines train you body to fight off the disease after it infects you they don’t prevent the disease from infecting you at all.  It entirely possible given the nature of this disease with a long asymptotic  incubation period that a vaccined person could get infected and spread the disease for a few days while the body fights off the disease with little or low symptoms.  The studies have NOT yet been done if a vaccined person can be a carrier.  Until such research is done and it is determined that a vaccine prevents spread everyone including those with a vaccine must continue to wear a mask and social distance.  And you are correct there might not be herd immunity from this vax.

[Spider-Dan]

OK, so after a bit more research:

It is theoretically possible to transmit the disease after being vaccinated, particularly due to the way the vaccine is given (intramuscular).  As the antibodies are produced throughout your body, certain areas will have more antibodies than others, and your nasal passages won't have a particularly high amount.  So it's possible to get infected with COVID only in your nose, and for you to spread that infection without the virus proceeding further in your body until such time that enough antibodies are produced in your nasal passages to wipe out that small infection there.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/health/covid-vaccine-mask.html
https://nrvs.info/can-i-spread-whooping-cough-if-i-am-vaccinated-against-it/

[dolphins4life]

I thought you worked in a grocery store for some stupid reason?

Anyway - if you're offered the vaccine, take it.

Weekdays in healthcare, weekends at a grocery store

[fyo]

My wife just got the Pfizer vaccine today. Didn't hurt a bit. She couldn't even locate the spot they jabbed her.

I think the immediate pain is pretty much random and just depends on any nerves hit. My son has been vaccinated about 50 times over the past 3 years (grass and birch pollen allergy). Very different beast from a covid-19 vaccine - even in terms of the jab itself (one is intramuscular, the other subcutaneous). Only point being that sometimes the shots would be quite painful while other times much milder.

[Dolphster]

I work in healthcare.  I am nervous about the virus and the vaccine.  I don't think I want it.  I am worried about how my body will react to it.

How many of you have gotten it now?

Edit:  If I do choose to get it, can I stop wearing a mask?   

A vasectomy would be a good decision.
Regards,
The Rest of the Planet

[Spider-Dan]

Enough with the dogpiling, please.

If you have a specific statement to rebut or object to, then do so.  Don't join a thread just to spam off-topic personal insults.

[Dolphster]

Sorry, Spider.  He is just so irritating that it is hard for me to walk away.  I'm the same way in "real life" and I know it is a character flaw in me. 

Regarding the vaccine, I have almost 900 hours of sick leave built up that I need to use before I retire.  So I don't want to get vaccinated for anything.  Before anyone loses their shit, the part about not wanting to get vaccinated for anything was just a joke.